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ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

I am looking for a bottle of household ammonia for cleaning and de greasing purposes. Is is sold in Switzerland at all? So far none of the DIY shops or supermarkets I checked have it in stock. Does anyone know where to buy this in Switzerland?
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Old 22.04.2021, 09:15
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I am looking for a bottle of household ammonia for cleaning and de greasing purposes. Is is sold in Switzerland at all? So far none of the DIY shops or supermarkets I checked have it in stock. Does anyone know where to buy this in Switzerland?
Look for "Salmiakgeist".
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

Also best to look in a drogurie, not pharmacy, that is the place to find most basic chemical stuff.
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

The sale of such chemicals is controlled in Switzerland. You'll almost certainly have to go to a drogerie and depending on the canton you may have to leave you name and address with the shop.
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

https://www.stoag.ch/de/produkte/pro...321011402.html

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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

The cleaning products sold under the Denner brand are quite strong. They come in purple atomizers. Not sure if they contain ammonia, but: (i) they clean the grease and calcite deposits in bathrooms with ease, and (ii) they irritate your respiratory tract enough to stop thinking about getting something stronger.
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Cleaning Garden Furniture/ where to purchase the AMMONIA

I was actually interested in cleaning my wooden parts of my garden furniture. I lookd on the online features and it said to use a simple mix of water, baking soda, and ammonia.

Where can I buy the ammonia please? What form does it take?

Furthermore, does anyone have perhaps another idea of cleaning wood furniture?

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Re: Cleaning Garden Furniture/ where to purchase the AMMONIA

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...ilable-ch.html

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Re: Cleaning Garden Furniture/ where to purchase the AMMONIA

Oh wonderful. I think they say: fancy that!
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Yes, to ii. Definitely. And enough to stop thinking about ever letting them anywhere near you, again.

I know someone whose respiratory system reacted so quickly to the purple Big C. Bang that she almost died, within minutes, and made it through only thanks to emergency medical procedures. I know two others who experienced asthma attacks when that stuff was used around them. That range of products is banned from our home.
Oh shit, that sounds scary.

I use the purple grease remover for the kitchen and the calc remover for the bathroom. I was exaggerating a bit on the aggressiveness to our lungs. Only minor discomfort for me, all I use is gloves. I mean, the smoke from burning wood more irritating.

Anyway, if Denner products are problematic for some people, ammonia (nitric acid) is even worse for the respiratory system.
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Re: Cleaning Garden Furniture/ where to purchase the AMMONIA

I just use a high pressure water cleaner (can be rented at any DIY store).
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Re: Cleaning Garden Furniture/ where to purchase the AMMONIA

Yes I read the last thread just posted here and maybe such strong chemicals are not for me. A high pressure hose is a good idea thanks but also not really for me, its on a balcony for example!

It's just to clean off the green stains that occur on wood over time on one item.
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

I buy all this sort of thing in Carrefour just over the border in France..
They have a great selection of hydrochloric acid, ammonia, ethanol, acetone etc etc all for 1-2 euro per litre.

So if you are anywhere near the border..
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

I red this thread and thought maybe we will look back like they do now with asbeztos and think what were we using that purple stuff for?
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I red this thread and thought maybe we will look back like they do now with asbeztos and think what were we using that purple stuff for?
Post #681 in This is Switzerland https://www.englishforum.ch/3176249-post681.html
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Re: ammoniaque/Ammoniak not available in CH?

Thank you all for your helpful and often entertaining responses!


I've figured out I can either order it professionally through my business at the same place we order denatured alcohols etc. However it's simply easier and a LOT cheaper (80%) to just buy it at the Intermarché in FR.
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Yes I read the last thread just posted here and maybe such strong chemicals are not for me. A high pressure hose is a good idea thanks but also not really for me, its on a balcony for example!

It's just to clean off the green stains that occur on wood over time on one item.
Look for Naturseife, Kern- oder Schmierseife available in any larger supermarket.
That with some lukewarm water should do the trick.
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Yes, to ii. Definitely. And enough to stop thinking about ever letting them anywhere near you, again.

I know someone whose respiratory system reacted so quickly to the purple Big C. Bang that she almost died, within minutes, and made it through only thanks to emergency medical procedures. I know two others who experienced asthma attacks when that stuff was used around them. That range of products is banned from our home.
Did the person perhaps inadvertently mix with other household cleaning products? A lot of people use different products trying to get a result and it can be dangerous. Bleach + ammonia can release toxic gases.
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Furthermore, does anyone have perhaps another idea of cleaning wood furniture?

sanding + varnish
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Even so, there are still the other organisms in nature, to consider, given that is is a known toxin.
All household cleaners are likely to be known toxins. Nail varnish remover is a known toxin, as is paint, scrubbing alcohol and your laundry powder/liquid. They just need treating with respect.
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