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No. It's because some AZ jabs were manufactured in India by SIII.

EU recognises normal AZ, but not Indian SIII AZ.
But that is not recognising a particular batch. The U.K. recognises Moderna and is discriminating based on where that Moderna vaccine was administered. The former is based on some sort of concerns that may prove unfounded, the latter is just moronic and nonsensical.
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Its clunky and bureaucratic but doesn't seem to be based on ill will.
A bit like the UK situation then?
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From the Shapps (Transport Secretary) speech:

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But for some people, its just any chance to have a go at the UK after Brexit,
The government are not The U.K.
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Can you ask your GP to update your NHS covid record? That's if you have the vaccine booklet.
I sent my CH results to my UK GP and these were added to my file and appear on the NHS app - but not in the COVID vaccination status section. I queried this with the NHS app people and they said this was because the vaccinations were not administered in England.

It goes without saying that anything done in England is vastly superior to anything done by Johnny Foreigner...
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Governments are there to protect the interests of its people. At the minute, 5M fully vaccinated British people are banned from travelling (or face quarantine - can't remember which) from most European countries. Is it that unreasonable to attempt to sort this out by holding for equivalence rather than acting unilaterally?

Why not blame the EU for not acting more quickly on this? If they had said publically they would recognise SIII jabs for the purposes of travel this whole issue would have gone away.

I'm not blaming them either - they might well have had more important fish to fry, and are just getting round to this, but its now time they did indeed recognise these jabs. That's all the UK is asking for. Ball is definitely in the EU court.

Hopefully in the next couple of weeks we will get our answer.

Nothing to do with the EU, I don't live in the EU, I live here and am fully vaccinated. The ball is with the UK government, and they are not allowing their own citizens to return and visit their own family who they haven't seen for maybe 18 months, but are allowing people to have their 2 weeks in Mallorca with their 2 unvaccinated teenagers... A wonderful set of priorities there..



And for many people, for various reasons, it will be too late if they sit on this for 4 weeks or more!



The usual shambles..
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The government are not The U.K.
Ok that's fair. But some of the stuff has gone beyond torybashing into calling the UK and its people at large names.

Everyone, US, UK, EU at times looks inward, and struggles to see things from the perspective of others.

I'm perhaps a bit sensitive and precious about it, I accept. I had to live through 4 years of it in London after the vote (as one of the few who made public the fact I voted leave), and just got tired of the names and the constant them-us thing. Tribalism in politics is at all time highs.

I like to think I'm an open minded person, but I didn't get much of that in return.

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Nothing to do with the EU, I don't live in the EU, I live here and am fully vaccinated. The ball is with the UK government, and they are not allowing their own citizens to return and visit their own family who they haven't seen for maybe 18 months, but are allowing people to have their 2 weeks in Mallorca with their 2 unvaccinated teenagers... A wonderful set of priorities there..



And for many people, for various reasons, it will be too late if they sit on this for 4 weeks or more!



The usual shambles..
Yeah ok - I accept not allowing Swiss certificates is not really based on anything (other than probably wanting to make it contemporaneous with the EU for political reasons, which is a poor reason). Hopefully it gets sorted soon. I myself have a ticket booked, so I have skin in the game...
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and they are not allowing their own citizens to return and visit their own family
Yes they are, but at this moment in time you still need to quarantine. As sh1tty as that is, it's your choice not to visit.

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The usual shambles..
Agreed on this. You'd have thought they would be at least as advanced as the EU as they had the head start. It will come though.
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Yes they are, but at this moment in time you still need to quarantine. As sh1tty as that is, it's your choice not to visit.



Agreed on this. You'd have thought they would be at least as advanced as the EU as they had the head start. It will come though.
Since you can isolate at friends or families homes, you can isolate at more than 1 address during the stay & you can leave at any time. I don't see any issue & have done 2 day trips to the UK since September 2020.
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@HickvonFrick - for going back your Dad will need a PCR test, how does that work for a non-resident, any idea of cost ?

TIA.
I checked our local apothek, Apodro (6-7 shops in Züri Oberland) If one is not covered by CH health insurance the cost is 47sfr. I imagine there is similar pricing at most other apotheke.
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I checked our local apothek, Apodro (6-7 shops in Züri Oberland) If one is not covered by CH health insurance the cost is 47sfr. I imagine there is similar pricing at most other apotheke.
Excellent, thanks for the info.
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Since you can isolate at friends or families homes, you can isolate at more than 1 address during the stay & you can leave at any time. I don't see any issue & have done 2 day trips to the UK since September 2020.
The rules state that you can only choose one address for the entirety of your trip. Although I like your interpretation better

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  • with friends or family
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Amber list arrivals cannot quarantine in a managed quarantine hotel – these are for red list arrivals only.

You must quarantine in one place for the full quarantine period, where you can have food and other necessities delivered.

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Yes they are, but at this moment in time you still need to quarantine. As sh1tty as that is, it's your choice not to visit.

What is "your choice not to visit" supposed to mean?! Fully vaccinated British citizens from all over the EU, EFTA countries want to visit their families, many with kids in schools, and by the time they sort this out it will be too damn late. Never mind people who need to visit elderly or ill relatives or friends in the UK.


It also beggars belief the costs involved in the mandatory PCR tests required in the UK.



Not that I think it will make the slightest bit of difference, but somebody sent me this:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/585438
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No, they’ve got their hands full.
That line can be used to justify everything a government does.
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Unfortunately this is not the case. Switzerland's vaccines are recognised by all Western countries, so it doesn't really have a problem. Many EU countries do not recognise all of the vaccines administered in the UK. Some EU countries do. Switzerland does.

Hypothetically the UK could welcome Swiss vaccine passports and not EU ones (until the EU recognises all British ones), but that would upset a lot of people and enrage the rejoiners. Realistically Swiss passports will likely be recognised concurrently with EU ones.

Ultimately they need to make sure the millions of people who had SIII jabs can travel as freely as anyone else. That's just a government trying to protect the interests of its own citizens.
I confess to being slightly confused about this whole SII thing and whether it’s even actually a thing - certainly I know people theoretically affected who are planning on traveling to France because apparently the certificate/app doesn’t actually say that you got an SII jab, so there’s no way to differentiate it. The skeptic in me wonders if it’s actually the UK whipping that up.

But even assuming it is, if the UK government wanted to protect the interests of their own citizens, they would extend their “jabbed by NHS requirement” to include also “or British citizens vaccinated abroad”. That doesn’t open up UK travel to tourists again, but it does allow citizens to return to their families.
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What is "your choice not to visit" supposed to mean?!
It means you have decided it’s not worth the effort.
It was only a few weeks ago most people in EU were not vaccinated, and only this (last?) week the EU agreed to recognize each other’s vaccine certs.
A couple of weeks and the UK will fall into line.
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Ok that's fair. But some of the stuff has gone beyond torybashing into calling the UK and its people at large names.

Everyone, US, UK, EU at times looks inward, and struggles to see things from the perspective of others.

I'm perhaps a bit sensitive and precious about it, I accept. I had to live through 4 years of it in London after the vote (as one of the few who made public the fact I voted leave), and just got tired of the names and the constant them-us thing. Tribalism in politics is at all time highs.

I like to think I'm an open minded person, but I didn't get much of that in return.
I think that’s all really fair, thanks.
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What is "your choice not to visit" supposed to mean?!
Exactly what it says.
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Problem with SII AZ vaccine, is that SII had not applied for EU recognition. They have now. https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.live...891670159.html
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I confess to being slightly confused about this whole SII thing and whether it’s even actually a thing - certainly I know people theoretically affected who are planning on traveling to France because apparently the certificate/app doesn’t actually say that you got an SII jab, so there’s no way to differentiate it. The skeptic in me wonders if it’s actually the UK whipping that up.

But even assuming it is, if the UK government wanted to protect the interests of their own citizens, they would extend their “jabbed by NHS requirement” to include also “or British citizens vaccinated abroad”. That doesn’t open up UK travel to tourists again, but it does allow citizens to return to their families.
There is: the batch number.

I agree this probably has gone over the heads of almost all European border guards, and people have probably got in who are technically not allowed to.
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