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Old 19.05.2021, 06:38
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Re: Question about splitting time between Switzerland and Wales. Advice appreciated.

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Weekly workers for example for whom it's assumed have no centre of life ("domicile") in Switzerland and whose "residence" is based solely upon having a work contract. Plus anyone else who meets the criteria for requiring a residence permit I suppose.
Cross border commuters are a special case and I guess don't really have residency as such in Switzerland since one of the criteria for getting the G permit is that they return to their home at least once a week.

And not a good analogy against the OP's in any case since it's nothing like a cross border commuter situation. We're talking people who live and work in Switzerland, not anywhere else. Their centre of life is here; not in a neighbouring country.

Both B and C permits become invalid if you're out of the country for more than 6 months at a time and the only reason I can think of for that to be the case is that the Swiss consider you've left the country and don't plan to return; Switzerland is no longer where your centre of life is. Yes C permits can be put on hold in some circumstances so you can take them up again later, but that's not possible with a B permit. So yes, the OP has to be careful not to stay outside of the country for more than 6 months. As they suggested, being out for 2 and then back again for 2 may work, but even then I'd be careful to make sure that at some point I was back for 3 or even 4 months at a time.

I'm also not sure what the UK officials would make of her constant coming and going atm. In the UK, all but essential travel isn't allowed atm though that may change. While "going home" to Switzerland might be considered essential, her coming back to the UK and then leaving again, back again, leaving again, may not fit the travel regulations.
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Old 19.05.2021, 07:42
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Could you elaborate, please? What kinds of people have permits, but can get away with no centrepoint in Switzerland, and how do they do that?
pop stars, F1 drivers, actors, rich people with multiple homes.

I am sure when Tina Turner became Swiss that they did not mention they might not grant citizenship because she was once or twice not in the country for 183 days in any year.....
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Old 19.05.2021, 13:31
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Cross border commuters are a special case ....
I didn't say cross-border workers. Weekly workers in general stay in CH during the week (hence the name) and return to their centre of life for weekends. They receive residency permits, pay health insurance etc.

You're entitled to an opinion, like you are on anything, and if you were in the OP's situation you're fully entitled to go about it the way you think is best, but I'm not sure it's helpful to offer it up as advice.

The biggest problem for the OP, should it ever come to light, will likely be taxation, at least when/if coronavirus dispensations cease.
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The biggest problem for the OP, should it ever come to light, will likely be taxation, at least when/if coronavirus dispensations cease.

This. This.

As a regular commuter, but with a B permit, I have had years when my centre of life has been UK and I pay tax there as well as CH, and years where is not, and I pay tax just in CH. YMMV but the deciding factor in that argument in my case is daycount.

More than 90 days in UK = UK tax resident. Less than 90 days = HMRC go away.

However, I have been asking what the allowances are for covid, because of course my best laid plans last tax year were scuppered when Dominic Cummings told Boris to say "Stay Home".

The word on the street is they will be lenient on the 90 days if you overstay visiting for weekends, but NOT on the "no more than 30 days working from UK within that 90 days" rule.

Given that I worked from home pretty much all the weekdays I was stuck in UK, that's me F@ck!d then. Not sure the argument "The Swiss said I had to" holds much water...

So, OP. As Landers said: Your biggest problem, should it ever come to light, will likely be taxation.


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The word on the street is they will be lenient on the 90 days if you overstay visiting for weekends, but NOT on the "no more than 30 days working from UK within that 90 days" rule.
Check the HMRC website. I'm sure I've seen something there about it. Technically though I think it has to be because you can't leave the country, for example if Switzerland banned all flights in not just because you don't want to. You could have still flown when there were flights.
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I didn't say cross-border workers. Weekly workers in general stay in CH during the week (hence the name) and return to their centre of life for weekends. They receive residency permits, pay health insurance etc.

You're entitled to an opinion, like you are on anything, and if you were in the OP's situation you're fully entitled to go about it the way you think is best, but I'm not sure it's helpful to offer it up as advice.

The biggest problem for the OP, should it ever come to light, will likely be taxation, at least when/if coronavirus dispensations cease.
What do you think weekly workers are, but cross border workers?

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...g_eu_efta.html

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html
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I didn't say cross-border workers. Weekly workers in general stay in CH during the week (hence the name) and return to their centre of life for weekends. They receive residency permits, pay health insurance etc.
Weekly workers ARE cross-border workers.

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I'm also not sure what the UK officials would make of her constant coming and going atm. In the UK, all but essential travel isn't allowed atm though that may change. While "going home" to Switzerland might be considered essential, her coming back to the UK and then leaving again, back again, leaving again, may not fit the travel regulations.
They can not prevent a UK passport holder entering the UK & the can't stop someone resident abroad returning home regardless of how often they travel.
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What do you think weekly workers are, but cross border workers?
Weekly workers don't have to be "cross border workers" although of course they cross the border when they come to work.

I don't think I want to do any more to help you understand. Seems it's a lost cause and in a Duncan Banntyne voice, I'm out.
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Weekly workers don't have to be "cross border workers" .
Yes, they do, otherwise they'd be residents.

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