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Hiking/Biking etc. fatal accidents

Switzerland is full of outdoor enthusiasts. The result is, of course, healthier and happier people. The flip side is that almost everyone knows someone who died doing their favourite sport. The death might have been caused by an accident, heart attack or something else.

I just lost a friend to a hiking accident yesterday. He knew the mountain like the back of his hand. We're all still in shock.

Be safe everyone.
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Sorry to hear. Mythen?
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My condolences to you. The mountains can often remind us just how scary and dangerous they can get, very quickly.
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Switzerland is full of outdoor enthusiasts. The result is, of course, healthier and happier people. The flip side is that almost everyone knows someone who died doing their favourite sport. The death might have been caused by an accident, heart attack or something else.

I just lost a friend to a hiking accident yesterday. He knew the mountain like the back of his hand. We're all still in shock.

Be safe everyone.
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My condolences.

Mountains are beautiful and fun. Cannot wait more to go back after the knee heals.
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I'm so sorry, Olygirl.
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I just lost a friend to a hiking accident yesterday. He knew the mountain like the back of his hand. We're all still in shock.

Be safe everyone.
So sorry to hear.

The newspapers were a bit vague on what happened. Do you have more details? Was it foggy or icy? Or both?

I remember having a discussion about the Grosser Mythen a few years ago on this forum and specifically about tethering children if taking them up there.

I think your post brings it home that even people with full knowledge of a mountain can have an accident.
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He was coming down the mountain with a friend at around 6.30 pm. The trail was slippery due to all the rain. Rumour has it he slipped and fell at curve 22.

He was a terrific guy.
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I am sorry for your loss
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Sorry to hear about this and especially sorry for your loss, Olygirl. The pic in the Luzerner Zeitung with that cliff further below gives a fearsome impression.



Was there still snow on the path? We had to stop at 1700 yesterday on a similar mountain, as anything not south facing was still snowed up and slushy/muddy.
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Old 29.05.2021, 11:29
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Sorry to hear about this and especially sorry for your loss, Olygirl. The pic in the Luzerner Zeitung with that cliff further below gives a fearsome impression.



Was there still snow on the path? We had to stop at 1700 yesterday on a similar mountain, as anything not south facing was still snowed up and slushy/muddy.
I've heard there's still snow on the path but I don't know. I believe the trail is still officially closed but the man who fell was part of a team that helps to maintain the path.
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Old 29.05.2021, 12:35
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Re: Hiking/Biking etc. fatal accidents

That's heartbreaking. Any hiker owes kudos to the Wanderwegpflege, these people are a special part of Switzerland for how hard they work up-mountain. But this shows the risks they face too.
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https://m.bote.ch/nachrichten/schwyz...146989,1319071
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I've heard there's still snow on the path but I don't know. I believe the trail is still officially closed but the man who fell was part of a team that helps to maintain the path.
Last weekend the snowline was at 1,500 m with fresh snow falling at that altitude, it might have changed a bit in 1 week but not significantly. Its been a wierd spring with most high elevation hiking trails closed, for good reason. Although people may have known the mountain or terrain it's imperative to take the proper equipment according to the conditions. Brought back out the touring skis and snowshoes for last weekend and in previous years have turned back when crampons were not on hand.

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Thanks for uploading. It was a sober report presented by the most famous Mythen hiker in the area, "Der Mensch." I knew those two were good buddies but then again, the accident victim had many friends.

RIP
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The Grosser Mythen was the first mountain I climbed in Switzerland, in the early noughties.

It was not technical, and I was happily bounding around until my wife informed my that a week before we did it, someone fell off and lost their life there. Honestly, it provided me with a sobering lesson which I have not forgotten.

Sitting in my garden yesterday, the wife mentioned that another person had died on the Mythen. It reminded me again, especially since I plan to go up it again this summer.
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Switzerland is full of outdoor enthusiasts. The result is, of course, healthier and happier people. The flip side is that almost everyone knows someone who died doing their favourite sport. The death might have been caused by an accident, heart attack or something else.

I just lost a friend to a hiking accident yesterday. He knew the mountain like the back of his hand. We're all still in shock.

Be safe everyone.
My condolences. I don't know the situation of your friends death, but as a general comment coming from someone I knew casually who went hiking alone in less than ideal conditions and died; it doesn't matter how much you know a mountain, you shouldn't do technical hikes or climbs alone. Always go with someone to greatly reduce the risk of injury or death.
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My condolences. I don't know the situation of your friends death, but as a general comment coming from someone I knew casually who went hiking alone in less than ideal conditions and died; it doesn't matter how much you know a mountain, you shouldn't do technical hikes or climbs alone. Always go with someone to greatly reduce the risk of injury or death.
Although in this case, as others have said, the path isn't technical, but because of the nature of the route, a slip or fall will invariably result in death.

Going with two or more people wouldn't change that unless they were roped together.

But yes, in other situations, not going alone can greatly reduce the risk of death, especially in dealing with, and getting help in a non-immediately fatal accident or incident.
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There is mostly no snow on the Grosser Mythen, just a bit at the beginning, but nothing to dangerous (not a dangerous spot).
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Although in this case, as others have said, the path isn't technical, but because of the nature of the route, a slip or fall will invariably result in death.

Going with two or more people wouldn't change that unless they were roped together.

But yes, in other situations, not going alone can greatly reduce the risk of death, especially in dealing with, and getting help in a non-immediately fatal accident or incident.
It was odd to see Der Mensch hop down without using the chain at the end of the video. Presumably he knows the safe and unsafe areas, and he sure knows how to double-use hiking sticks. Still, sticks are hardly helpful once a fall occurs on rocky terrain.

Roping is not fail safe unless one person is anchored at any one time. Worst case, one person takes the other(s) down. Granted, that's more typical on steep glaciers, but in slippery conditions on rock, that can backfire too.

Perhaps via ferrata buckling can help, though that is messy with chains, and as with fixed lines, everyone then needs to pace and this only works smoothly for one-way flow. I don't presume they would even allow that at Grossen Mythen.

I have never hiked Grossen Mythen. I can see how appealing it is with its high-prominence and views, yet it seems quite deadly, also these: https://www.pilatustoday.ch/zentrals...-tod-136563146
https://www.bote.ch/nachrichten/schw...146988,1262496
https://www.20min.ch/story/wanderin-...d-862245113499

Only on a nice, dry, low-crowd day...

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