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The disappearing act

I am wondering if anyone has experience with such a peculiar situation.

An acquaintance has a bumpy coexistence with another tenant. Neither likes the other - they rub each other up the wrong way.

The landlord is enamoured with the other, so that person has his ear, and the landlord is pretty much ignoring any request from my acquaintance, as I understand it, and would seem to be passively-aggressively waiting for my acquaintance to get fed-up and leave, if I was to guess.

Over the course of chatting, my acquaintance revealed they have no clue who the other person is. Their name is written nowhere in or outside of the building, and their vehicle is registered to a different canton.

In case things escalate, as these things can sometimes, how could my acquaintance determine who that person is?
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I am wondering if anyone has experience with such a peculiar situation.

An acquaintance has a bumpy coexistence with another tenant. Neither likes the other - they rub each other up the wrong way.

The landlord is enamoured with the other, so that person has his ear, and the landlord is pretty much ignoring any request from my acquaintance, as I understand it, and would seem to be passively-aggressively waiting for my acquaintance to get fed-up and leave, if I was to guess.

Over the course of chatting, my acquaintance revealed they have no clue who the other person is. Their name is written nowhere in or outside of the building, and their vehicle is registered to a different canton.

In case things escalate, as these things can sometimes, how could my acquaintance determine who that person is?
You can normally see the name of the owner of a car, most cantons freely give the info & it's available with an app.
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Old 03.07.2021, 13:09
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Re: The disappearing act

Thanks to guidance from fatmanfilms, I was able to do a bit of digging, and want to post links to helpful threads on the top of searching for the owner of a vehicle, that I found on this site as a result, in case anyone stumbles upon this thread in future.


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...te-search.html


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...ber-plate.html


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...autoindex.html


Post detailing the iphone app's that keep being mentioned on this topic:



https://www.englishforum.ch/695101-post268.html


From what I can tell, the canton concerned in the story above has the info behind a paywall. I also came across some info stating the canton where a vehicle is registered should be where it mostly is.


"Vehicle registration The canton responsible for registering your vehicle is the one in which the vehicle is based. This is generally where your vehicle is parked overnight and is usually the same as your canton of residence. This is deemed to be the case when the vehicle is kept in the vehicle holder’s canton of residence at least two weekends in every month."





https://www.ch.ch/en/registering-vehicle/


This adds another curious element to the story, as it was said to me the vehicle is permanently in a different canton to that it is registered in (and the person is in the same location as the vehicle, but their name is not present on anything in or outside of the building).
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Thanks to guidance from fatmanfilms, I was able to do a bit of digging, and want to post links to helpful threads on the top of searching for the owner of a vehicle, that I found on this site as a result, in case anyone stumbles upon this thread in future.


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...te-search.html


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...ber-plate.html


https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...autoindex.html


Post detailing the iphone app's that keep being mentioned on this topic:



https://www.englishforum.ch/695101-post268.html


From what I can tell, the canton concerned in the story above has the info behind a paywall. I also came across some info stating the canton where a vehicle is registered should be where it mostly is.


"Vehicle registration The canton responsible for registering your vehicle is the one in which the vehicle is based. This is generally where your vehicle is parked overnight and is usually the same as your canton of residence. This is deemed to be the case when the vehicle is kept in the vehicle holder’s canton of residence at least two weekends in every month."





https://www.ch.ch/en/registering-vehicle/


This adds another curious element to the story, as it was said to me the vehicle is permanently in a different canton to that it is registered in (and the person is in the same location as the vehicle, but their name is not present on anything in or outside of the building).
This will happen with 'company cars' although in theory they should be registered where the car stays at night.
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Re: The disappearing act

I asked a friend on behalf of your acquaintance: another possibility is the status of “Wochenaufenhalter”. However, if the car is parked there regularly over the weekend, the stroppy tenant is open to denunciation at their tax domicile

Regarding paywall: Halterabfragen cost CHF 1.00 in BL – BS seems to be free unless the info is blocked
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Old 03.07.2021, 15:02
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Re: The disappearing act

I keep a vehicle in Italy with TI plates year round.

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I keep a vehicle in Italy with TI plates year round.

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Out on the street 24/7/365? Hardly, as you still have it

Don't really see the OP's issue with the (stroppy neighbour's) plates either
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Re: The disappearing act

LtSofrDrink thank you very much for checking. That's kind of you.


They are living there 100%, my acquaintance says, and my acquaintance thinks they work locally



There's no obvious connection to the Canton the vehicle is registered in (there's no sense of the person being away a lot, I am told)



It's a complicated web Since their name isn't listed anywhere, they're presumably not receiving bills like IWB, Serafe or letters from the Gemeinde, unless they have mail-forwarding setup or use a PO box of some sort, but why go to that trouble, if they're legitimately living in the Canton?
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Re: The disappearing act

Apart from asking the neighbour and/or landlord directly, your acquaintance could hire a private detective who might have a few better ideas. Depending upon the hoped for outcome, call the police and report a “strange” car. Doubtful if any of these actions will improve existing relationships…
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Re: The disappearing act

Wouldn't the local cantonal steueramt be interested in the fact, that they are missing taxes on the car (and maybe these are not the only taxes they are missing)? Anyway, I would check the registered owner, the fees are usually quite reasonable.
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Re: The disappearing act

Thank you all
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Re: The disappearing act

If they have multiple vehicles, ALL must be registered in the same place.

To much ado about nothing.

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This adds another curious element to the story, as it was said to me the vehicle is permanently in a different canton to that it is registered in (and the person is in the same location as the vehicle, but their name is not present on anything in or outside of the building).
So what?

Why do you even care?

You sound like a stalker!

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Re: The disappearing act

"In case these things escalate" - you mean beyond the stalking and random accusations of tax evasion?

Why not just ask them next time there's interaction? If there's some kind of misunderstanding, politely asking someone's name seems a reasonable step to reduce that.
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An acquaintance has a bumpy coexistence with another tenant. Neither likes the other - they rub each other up the wrong way.

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Over the course of chatting, my acquaintance revealed they have no clue who the other person is. Their name is written nowhere in or outside of the building, and their vehicle is registered to a different canton.
How do you have a bad relationship with someone you don’t know
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How do you have a bad relationship with someone you don’t know
You've been on EF for 13 years and ask that question?!
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Re: The disappearing act

I thought this thread is about one of David Copperfield's numbers but it seems it's far more bizarre than that.

@OP, what's exactly your issue with this neighbour? Why does she "rub your the wrong way"? Care to develop, the jury must know she's a t**t beyond reasonable doubts. lol
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It is not the OP who has the issue, it is an "acquaintance".
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You've been on EF for 13 years and ask that question?!
first thought that crossed my mind too.

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I thought this thread is about one of David Copperfield's numbers but it seems it's far more bizarre than that.

@OP, what's exactly your issue with this neighbour? Why does she "rub your the wrong way"? Care to develop, the jury must know she's a t**t beyond reasonable doubts. lol
OP doesn't. OP is asking for a friend.
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I asked a friend on behalf of your acquaintance: another possibility is the status of “Wochenaufenhalter”. However, if the car is parked there regularly over the weekend, the stroppy tenant is open to denunciation at their tax domicile

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first thought that crossed my mind too.


OP doesn't. OP is asking for a friend.
I understand that the cool kids are always late
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