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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

England 1 shot on target.
Gutted how bad our penalties were.
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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

Apparently it is true,
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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

Karma.
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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

The Italians amassed a great deal of yellow cards... They couldn't have been too far from finishing the game with ten players only.
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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

Southgate is weak. Playing with 7 defenders and bringing players like Grealish and Rashford in way too late. Then after the 1-0 he switched formation again and made them all stay in the penalty area instead of leaving things as they were and hunt for the 2-0. And why let young players kick the penalties?
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Oh well, we dared to dream and got to the finals so nothing to be ashamed of
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Southgate is weak. Playing with 7 defenders and bringing players like Grealish and Rashford in way too late. Then after the 1-0 he switched formation again and made them all stay in the penalty area instead of leaving things as they were and hunt for the 2-0. And why let young players kick the penalties?
Ah yes, and you’ve managed how many professional teams to champion wins ???
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Ah yes, and you’ve managed how many professional teams to champion wins ???
About as many as Southgate
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The Italians amassed a great deal of yellow cards... They couldn't have been too far from finishing the game with ten players only.
Would that have made a difference?
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Would that have made a difference?
One was a strategic foul and fully on purpose, all others were just "too much effort" at times. That England had just one card was not a matter of fairness, but the lack of attacking and forward push mentioned. If you defend with five by closing all gaps will you not need to tackle that hard.
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Would that have made a difference?
The chap who stamped on Grealish (clumsy rather than aggressive), was lucky. That could easily have been a straight red (or at least with my rugby brain where if you do something quite dangerous you pay even if it wasn't malicious). Too late to make a difference perhaps.
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The chap who stamped on Grealish (clumsy rather than aggressive), was lucky. That could easily have been a straight red. Too late to make a difference perhaps.
He missed a penalty. England should be happy that it wasn't a red card.

Surprising that even a Tom Cruise speech didn't help the English players (who all had to sign an NDA for it).
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The chap who stamped on Grealish (clumsy rather than aggressive), was lucky. That could easily have been a straight red (or at least with my rugby brain where if you do something quite dangerous you pay even if it wasn't malicious). Too late to make a difference perhaps.
He stepped on the ball, slipped and then hit him admittedly badly. However, clearly too hard but not on purpose. Yellow is exactly right. Something people barely say: the referee was absolutely top class and made the right calls for the entire game.
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The worst foul of the match was Chiellini's shirt pull on Saka. Should have been sent off.



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The worst foul of the match was Chiellini's shirt pull on Saka. Should have been sent off.



Its a tactical foul. Fully on purpose. Grabbing the shirt is the classic as it makes sure you wont injure the other guy. Gets you a yellow card according to the rules and that's what he got.
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Re: Supporting England in the Euros

I can see a few bans happening after this, but one of the security/police has been doing a little too much MMA training by the number of punches thrown.

BBC article on fans breaking through barriers:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57803366
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I can see a few bans happening after this, but one of the security/police has been doing a little too much MMA training by the number of punches thrown.

BBC article on fans breaking through barriers:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57803366
Jesus yeah he went a bit OTT there

Would have been good to see a few more seconds beforehand though maybe the other guy swung for him first or something but even if he did its no excuse for that.
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First half Italy where there for the taking. I was watching on Swiss TV and the commentator said "England don't want to play anymore, Italy want to play but don't know how". He also said that England were playing a very dangerous game of sitting back etc.

Offcourse it is easy for me to say and Italy played their heart out but chances like these don't come too often. The stars were nicely aligned for England. Anyway it is only a game. Italy had all against them and they still fought back.
I hear you but I think that commentator is just as unpolished as some of the other ones. England didn't want to play anymore? It's not snooker where they can do what they like until they mistake. England of course wanted to play but Italy stopped them with everything they had. Its likethe commentator who asked MAguire if he thought England were passive in the second half. Maguire looked as if to say 'What are you talking about?' And then he poilitely replied the final was. 'ding dong' (thats what he said) in which both teams were going back and forth all night. A final like that is never there for the takiing. Italy wouldnt ever give up. I often think observers prefer their words and surface 'explanatory narrtives' than the actual spectacle in fornt of them
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Southgate is weak. Playing with 7 defenders and bringing players like Grealish and Rashford in way too late. Then after the 1-0 he switched formation again and made them all stay in the penalty area instead of leaving things as they were and hunt for the 2-0. And why let young players kick the penalties?
The worse kind of football commentaros are the one game wonders. Literally call him weak after they were a inch away from winning the thing. its just ridiculous. They didnt switch formation in the first half at all wtf! and who would you have subbed for grealish and rashofrd and when? and actually, i think bringing teh strikers on to take penalties is a storong tactical move, strong in the sense that 'hes not afraid to make big decisions'. rashford is a top class striker whos been playing for 5 years, thereofre a likely penatly taker.
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