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Old 09.07.2021, 14:22
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Attempted burglary or just strange dude

Just now.. still shaking a bit.

A young looking dark skin guy who spoke broken german rang everyone's door bell in our building (probably didn't know we don't have an intercom so we all went downstairs thinking it's the mailman or so).

I got downstairs first, saw him, opened the door, asked who he was, he ignored me and just walked in and checked around.

I was like wait what are you doing here? visiting someone?

He said he wanna use the WC.

I said no this is a residential building no WC for you to use.

My other neighbour got downstairs (also heard the doorbell). He asked for WC again and my neighbour politely asked him to leave, the guy didn't want to, mumbled something and still wanted to get in and check. At the end he still firmly requested him to get out.

Attempted burglary? Scouting for a potential burglary? Or just a strange dude?

Definitely have to be more careful these days, I'm still wondering what should I have done if my neighbour weren't there. That strange dude just ignored me.. Maybe I would have yelled and hope some pedestrian would notice, I'm rather small so I don't plan to use my muay thai skills on a big guy or I'll just look like a little angry chicken..
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Old 09.07.2021, 14:27
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Strange man looking for a toilet, this could lead to a very messy situation. Good thing you didn't kick up a stink.
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Re: Attempted burglary or just strange dude

So he actually made no attempt to burgle therefore not an attempted burglary I’d say.
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Re: Attempted burglary or just strange dude

Maybe he just really, really needed to poop?

(On a more serious note... I think I would have felt freaked out, too. It is very odd behavior).
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Maybe he just really really needed to use a WC, but yeah, probably not.
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Maybe he just really really needed to use a WC, but yeah, probably not.
Your post is a good warning to stay alert and aware of the people around you. Glad nothing worse happened.
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Old 09.07.2021, 14:48
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Your post is a good warning to stay alert and aware of the people around you. Glad nothing worse happened.
Yea I put it out here maybe somebody had similiar experience...
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I'm sorry you had an experience that left you feeling shaken up.

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I got downstairs first, saw him, opened the door, asked who he was, he ignored me and just walked in and checked around.
This is the part you could do differently, if ever such a caller comes by again.

If I didn't recognise the man, and if I could hear the other neighbours coming down the stairs, I would not have opened the door, but would have waited for them to get there.

If none of us recognised the person, and if we (or just me if I were alone) decided to open the door, at all, (that's not a reflex, but a measured decision) it would have been just a crack with my foot/body against the door, enough for him to speak up and name the person he wanted to see, but there would've been no possibility for him to "just walk in".

It's a good thing that your building has a door that is usually locked from the outside. Make sure you lock your apartment from the inside, too. Hope you're safe!
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Re: Attempted burglary or just strange dude

Do you have a front-facing window you can lean out of, and check who's there? People I know who live above the ground floor and have no intercom use this as their default method of determining who's at the door and why, before they consider whether they need to go downstairs.
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Do you have a front-facing window you can lean out of, and check who's there? People I know who live above the ground floor and have no intercom use this as their default method of determining who's at the door and why, before they consider whether they need to go downstairs.
Problem is the postman never rings twice these days.
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Just now.. still shaking a bit.

A young looking dark skin guy who spoke broken german rang everyone's door bell in our building (probably didn't know we don't have an intercom so we all went downstairs thinking it's the mailman or so).

I got downstairs first, saw him, opened the door, asked who he was, he ignored me and just walked in and checked around.

I was like wait what are you doing here? visiting someone?

He said he wanna use the WC.

I said no this is a residential building no WC for you to use.

My other neighbour got downstairs (also heard the doorbell). He asked for WC again and my neighbour politely asked him to leave, the guy didn't want to, mumbled something and still wanted to get in and check. At the end he still firmly requested him to get out.

Attempted burglary? Scouting for a potential burglary? Or just a strange dude?

Definitely have to be more careful these days, I'm still wondering what should I have done if my neighbour weren't there. That strange dude just ignored me.. Maybe I would have yelled and hope some pedestrian would notice, I'm rather small so I don't plan to use my muay thai skills on a big guy or I'll just look like a little angry chicken..
You should have immediately called the police, because after that he could have gone to another 10 apartment buildings to do the same thing today. By not reporting such suspicious/crazy behaviour you have increased the risk of him doing harm to others, especially if a very elderly person answered the door.
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Attempted burglary? Scouting for a potential burglary? Or just a strange dude?
Probably just a strange dude.
I mean, burglary requires stealth and secrecy, that's a bit difficult to have after you've rang everybody. Same for preparation.
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Definitely have to be more careful these days, I'm still wondering what should I have done if my neighbour weren't there.
With hindsight, you could have stopped/blocked the door with your foot at 5cm ajar before unlocking it.

Toes lifted up to block the door, foot firmly on the ground with your weight on it, then open the door. The door may be more than just a couple centimeters above ground, you do want to make sure your foot is safe if the other tries to push it open, you may have to lift more than just the toes for that.

That said, shouting down to see who it is seems far better, also less of a hassle.
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Re: Attempted burglary or just strange dude

Yes, I would call the police. Same thing happened to us once - I opened the door thinking it was our late night pizza delivery (was admittedly a bit tipsy) & it was some random guy on drugs. My husband scared him away, but we called the police just to come do a drive by to make sure he was gone and not doing it to other buildings.

Next time, if you can see it is an odd looking person, don’t open the door. If they somehow make it in and refuse to leave, please call the police.

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You should have immediately called the police, because after that he could have gone to another 10 apartment buildings to do the same thing today. By not reporting such suspicious/crazy behaviour you have increased the risk of him doing harm to others, especially if a very elderly person answered the door.

This feels like hyperbole. I don't believe there's any ligitimate way to make such a strong claim about increased risk, however well-intentioned. Also, calling the police may not have helped at all in the moment.


What can help is making neighbours aware that something strange happened, even if that's all it was. I've approached neighbours before to let them know about something pertinent I witnessed, and have been approached by neighbours to let me know about something, too.


I vist an old lady local to me, and, once, an older lady tried to rush into the building behind me when I was buzzed in, and I had to force the door closed to stop her, telling her to either let herself in, or contact someone in the building to let her in. I wasn't especially worried, and the letterboxes are within the building, so it's not uncommon for this sort of thing to occur, I would guess, but I told the old lady I visit nonetheless, just for awareness,
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This feels like hyperbole. I don't believe there's any ligitimate way to make such a strong claim about increased risk, however well-intentioned. Also, calling the police may not have helped at all in the moment.


What can help is making neighbours aware that something strange happened, even if that's all it was. I've approached neighbours before to let them know about something pertinent I witnessed, and have been approached by neighbours to let me know about something, too.


I vist an old lady local to me, and, once, an older lady tried to rush into the building behind me when I was buzzed in, and I had to force the door closed to stop her, telling her to either let herself in, or contact someone in the building to let her in. I wasn't especially worried, and the letterboxes are within the building, so it's not uncommon for this sort of thing to occur, I would guess, but I told the old lady I visit nonetheless, just for awareness,
Of course there is. If you see someone acting suspicious to the extent that they are trying to gain improper access to buildings they do not live and then not immediately leaving when challenged, you should report it so that the police are aware and can either come and investigate or that they have the correct information to take it further if something else happens in another place as a result of the same guy trying the same thing in other buildings. This is just such complete and utter basic common sense that it saddens me that I have to spell it out.

Unfortunately the attitude of risk-unaware people like yourself, and some others I have seen in threads recently who admit to buzzing people into buildings without even checking, increase the risk for other people.
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You should have immediately called the police, because after that he could have gone to another 10 apartment buildings to do the same thing today. By not reporting such suspicious/crazy behaviour you have increased the risk of him doing harm to others, especially if a very elderly person answered the door.
This...

Someone entered your residential building uninvited and refused repeated requests to leave. To my mind, that's definitely and clearly a police matter, regardless of any other details.
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Of course there is. If you see someone acting suspicious to the extent that they are trying to gain access to buildings they do not live, you should report it so that the police are aware and can either come and investigate or that they have the correct information to take it further if something else happens in another place as a result of the same guy. This is just such complete and utter basic common sense that it saddens me that I have to spell it out. Unfortunately, the attitude of clueless people like yourself and some others I have seen in threads recently, who admit to buzzing people into buildings without even checking, increase the risk for other people.

Can you show where any of this relates to what I posted please?
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Can you show where any of this relates to what I posted please?
Seriously, wtf.
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I'm responding to you politely. I'm not resorting to groans and insults, nor using foul language. You'll find no evidence of me using them at all here, as I find them so unbecoming for adults.


You responded without having read my post properly, based on emotions, fear or previous bad experiences at a guess. You've alluded to me having posted things I didn't post, in order to elevate yourself at my expense. I've yet to see anyone apologise or back down over wrong claims they've made here against others, nor admit mistakes, so have no expectation you'll break that trend either.
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Can you show where any of this relates to what I posted please?
You're saying that you would make your neighbours aware of suspicious behaviour, which is great and the right thing to do, but...

"I don't believe there's any ligitimate way to make such a strong claim about increased risk, however well-intentioned. Also, calling the police may not have helped at all in the moment."

... being a concerned and thoughtful neighbour does not give you the knowledge the police have of similar incidences in the area / region. This may be one of a few incidences which are very similar and forming a pattern of behaviour which would be of interest to the police. If you don't tell them, you're leaving them blind, and for all you know, it might be relevant to an ongoing inquiry.
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