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Re: Vaccination required for office entry?

Could we see people lying and claiming they are unvaccinated when they are infact vaccinated.

Offering perks to unvaccinated, like WFH and free tests is dangerous territory
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Old 11.09.2021, 14:06
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Could we see people lying and claiming they are unvaccinated when they are infact vaccinated.

Offering perks to unvaccinated, like WFH and free tests is dangerous territory
Agree. Ridiculous.
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Old 11.09.2021, 16:23
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Could we see people lying and claiming they are unvaccinated when they are infact vaccinated.

Offering perks to unvaccinated, like WFH and free tests is dangerous territory
Indeed, today there is no way to prove you are not vaccinated.
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Old 11.09.2021, 16:48
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Indeed, today there is no way to prove you are not vaccinated.
Sneakily taking a sputum sample from the back of your nose and doing a PCR test.
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Old 11.09.2021, 16:56
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Re: Vaccination required for office entry?

I am not getting vaccinated for a very specific reason. I accept the fact that I might be fired at some point. But I also have a deep contempt for a broad range of people summed up by this quote:

The obedient always think about themselves as virtuous, rather than cowardly.
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Old 11.09.2021, 17:08
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I am not getting vaccinated for a very specific reason. I accept the fact that I might be fired at some point. But I also have a deep contempt for a broad range of people summed up by this quote:

The obedient always think about themselves as virtuous, rather than cowardly.
Oh dear…… people do not vaccinate now because they are obedient. Calling people who are obedient cowards? Wow, just wow.

You never obey anything? Traffic rules? Wearing a seat belt?
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Old 11.09.2021, 17:31
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I am not getting vaccinated for a very specific reason. I accept the fact that I might be fired at some point. But I also have a deep contempt for a broad range of people summed up by this quote:

The obedient always think about themselves as virtuous, rather than cowardly.
Flakey, indeed.
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Flakey, indeed.
I am the flakiest of flakes.
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Oh dear…… people do not vaccinate now because they are obedient. Calling people who are obedient cowards? Wow, just wow.

You never obey anything? Traffic rules? Wearing a seat belt?
Did I say everyone? I am referring to a broad range of people who seem to have become incredibly intolerant of people who have not been vaccinated for reasons I would consider reasonable (and no I don't include 5G bill gates chip people in that category).

And yes some people are cowardly. Just as I would freely admit that on some issues I am as well.
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Old 11.09.2021, 18:27
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Re: Vaccination required for office entry?

Novartis has said no admittance to their restaurants without the Cert.
I guess any company restaurant will have to follow the new guidelines.
I don’t mind this as long as they remove the physical distancing rules, which has seen my company’s restaurant capacity slashed by what looks like 60%.
Worked ok in the summer, difficult to see how it will work now the weather is turning.
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Old 11.09.2021, 18:47
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Indeed, today there is no way to prove you are not vaccinated.

Not to be that guy, but in theory, you could make them take an antibody test to show the absence of antibodies.
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Old 11.09.2021, 18:53
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Re: Vaccination required for office entry?

My employer requires Covid cert for entry into the staff canteen. Also mask wearing anywhere other than one's desk.

Good!
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Old 11.09.2021, 18:55
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Old 11.09.2021, 19:06
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Novartis has said no admittance to their restaurants without the Cert.
I guess any company restaurant will have to follow the new guidelines.
I don’t mind this as long as they remove the physical distancing rules, which has seen my company’s restaurant capacity slashed by what looks like 60%.
Worked ok in the summer, difficult to see how it will work now the weather is turning.
Theres a separate floor of the cheapo Restaurant for the unvaccinated! My lunch buddy is unvaccinated (I am vaccinated), so might well go up there at some point.

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My employer requires Covid cert for entry into the staff canteen. Also mask wearing anywhere other than one's desk.

Good!
Novartis requires it only in shops and restaurants. Our building is so quiet it makes no odds anyway. Pretty much everyone regularly in is vaccinated but is pretty relaxed about Covid (naturally the more worried Are WFH).

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Old 11.09.2021, 19:28
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Novartis requires it only in shops and restaurants. Our building is so quiet it makes no odds anyway.
So they differentiate between office and canteen? What is the point of that?
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So they differentiate between office and canteen? What is the point of that?
Because they are required to by law. They are pretty much doing the minimum required by law. (I'm not sure how it works for the antivaxxers floor of the restaurant though)
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Theres a separate floor of the cheapo Restaurant for the unvaccinated! My lunch buddy is unvaccinated (I am vaccinated), so might well go up there at some point.
I wouldn't be proud working for such an employer. That's even worse than demanding it for the restaurant as a whole.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:31
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Re: Vaccination required for office entry?

My company mothballed the canteen some time during last year's lockdown.

We now have a food van that sells stuff that you can either eat at your desk or sit outside on a bench for example to eat.

The food is so awful that many people are bringing food from home or going to a restaurant instead. HR are now complaining that not enough people are using the food van and are suggesting they could cancel the contract.
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Old 11.09.2021, 20:34
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Because they are required to by law. They are pretty much doing the minimum required by law. (I'm not sure how it works for the antivaxxers floor of the restaurant though)
Ah, didn't know cantines are part of the certificate thing. Cantines that are open to the public, this must mean then.
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