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Level of education in Switzerland

I got told recently that Swiss people among the worst educated in Europe, is this true? I don't mean the quality of education of top 1% but overall population in general.
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Old 06.08.2021, 22:50
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Re: Level of education in Switzerland

Most of them speak several languages, all of them speak German besides Swissgerman and they are known to learn the language of the country they emigrate to when they do.
So compare.
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Most of them speak several languages, all of them speak German besides Swissgerman and they are known to learn the language of the country they emigrate to when they do.
So compare.
I didn't mean languages.

It's a not a troll question. I good friend of mine who lives in Germany said that. I'm just trying to understand if it's true and why
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I didn't mean languages.

It's a not a troll question. I good friend of mine who lives in Germany said that. I'm just trying to understand if it's true and why
A lot of people in Switzerland leave high school without qualifications there and go on to apprenticeships (rather than leaving school after exams like GCSEs and A-levels). Not sure it's "worst educated" just different, more vocational.
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Old 06.08.2021, 23:15
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all of them speak German
Umm, NO.

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Old 06.08.2021, 23:18
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A lot of people in Switzerland leave high school without qualifications there and go on to apprenticeships (rather than leaving school after exams like GCSEs and A-levels). Not sure it's "worst educated" just different, more vocational.
What is GCSE or A levels ? Seems like random words to me
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I got told recently that Swiss people among the worst educated in Europe, is this true? I don't mean the quality of education of top 1% but overall population in general.
As a high-immigration country our problem is the ignorant immigrants, some don't even know the country's name.
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As a high-immigration country our problem is the ignorant immigrants, some don't even know the country's name.
Surely if "our" people cared to read the history, they would understand that swiss had been called Swiss for centuries. Ignorance is bad.

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Umm, NO.

Tom

sorry about that

All Swissgerman speakers speak German. So do the Romantsch. As they're taught in German at school. (The Romantsch probably in both).
The people in the French and the Italian part of course are taught in that mother-tongue - most of them still learn a second language at school though.

Did I dig myself out of that one?
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Surely if "our" people cared to read the history, they would understand that swiss had been called Swiss for centuries. Ignorance is bad.
Generally, it is indeed. It seems unlikely to change all that much in your case though.
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Re: Level of education in Switzerland

If it is not a trolling (although it feel and smells like trolling), then here is an answer:

0. The premise of this question is wrong by itself, since it is a blatant generalization only targeted to offend by generating or supporting a negative stereotype. And by itself this questions shows lack of educational results or absences of thereof at a source, since a person generates not just a baseless or meaningless statement, but actually the one, which can easily be proven wrong.

1. Compared to Germany, any country would be worse by the UNDP Education Index, since Germany takes its first place according to the latest (2019) ranking. But also:
- Switzerland ranks very high as well. Higher than France, Spain, Austria, Luxembourg, Eastern European countries and Russia, which places it slightly above the median in European region.
- this index considers the amount of education, not its quality. The quality can hardly be adequately quantified and compared, especially for adults: you may force kids to take some tests due to their dependent status, but most adults won't follow such requests, and it's not that many police states around the globe.

2. By the percentage of tertiary education [since the topic is about the "level of education|], Switzerland is way above the average in Europe. And don't even look, where the Germany is in the same chart.
It doesn't say anything about the quality of such education, but it certainly shows, that people are well educated here and the country itself is far from being the worst in Europe for that matter.

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Surely if "our" people cared to read the history, they would understand that swiss had been called Swiss for centuries. Ignorance is bad.
Who calls it Swiss?

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Surely if "our" people cared to read the history, they would understand that swiss had been called Swiss for centuries. Ignorance is bad.
French: Suisse
German: Schweiz
Italian: Svizzera
Romansh: Svizra
English: Switzerland

So that's the four languages of Switzerland plus the language of this forum.I don't know where you learned English, but "Swiss" as a noun only applies to the people, not the country.

Ignorance is indeed bad. You are ignorant.
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If it is not a trolling (although it feel and smells like trolling), then here is an answer:

0. The premise of this question is wrong by itself, since it is a blatant generalization only targeted to offend by generating or supporting a negative stereotype. And by itself this questions shows lack of educational results or absences of thereof at a source, since a person generates not just a baseless or meaningless statement, but actually the one, which can easily be proven wrong.

1. Compared to Germany, any country would be worse by the UNDP Education Index, since Germany takes its first place according to the latest (2019) ranking. But also:
- Switzerland ranks very high as well. Higher than France, Spain, Austria, Luxembourg, Eastern European countries and Russia, which places it slightly above the median in European region.
- this index considers the amount of education, not its quality. The quality can hardly be adequately quantified and compared, especially for adults: you may force kids to take some tests due to their dependent status, but most adults won't follow such requests, and it's not that many police states around the globe.

2. By the percentage of tertiary education [since the topic is about the "level of education|], Switzerland is way above the average in Europe. And don't even look, where the Germany is in the same chart.
It doesn't say anything about the quality of such education, but it certainly shows, that people are well educated here and the country itself is far from being the worst in Europe for that matter.
Interesting, thank you! That's what I found over internet as well.
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French: la Suisse
German: die Schweiz
Italian: la Svizzera
Romansh: la Svizra
English: Switzerland

So that's the four languages of Switzerland plus the language of this forum.I don't know where you learned English, but "Swiss" as a noun only applies to the people, not the country.

Ignorance is indeed bad. You are ignorant.
FTFY.

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Re: Level of education in Switzerland

Some information is available here

https://gpseducation.oecd.org/Countr...ld=10&topic=EO

Up to the OP how to interpret the data
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Re: Level of education in Switzerland

Well maybe otec, you should've talked to an austrian friend and that person might have said how "the swiss are in the top 3 in europe" when it comes to education ?

I was told how the french are one of the most educated in europe and omg... ..

btw there's no such thing as "best education" it's all wrong and if we'd have to rate an education system I recon it's scandinavian countries..not of what they teach but how they teach.
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Surely if "our" people cared to read the history, they would understand that swiss had been called Swiss for centuries. Ignorance is bad.
I am a bit disappointed - you got it right in the Amazon thread! Looks like it was just one of your rare "mistakes"
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