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Wine from a neighbour

My wife dealt with the weeds growing over our parking spaces that are shared with our neighbours. Mrs Neighbour was so grateful for the hard work that she gifted us a bottle of 1999 wine from Mr Neighbour's cellar. I'm sure it will be lovely, but I've no real idea about wine that age.

It's a Faustina Rioja 1999.

Anyone have any knowledge of this year and particular mark? I do not have the facilities to lay it down for another twenty decades. Or weeks.
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Old 09.08.2021, 18:13
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Crianza? Reserva? We need to know more...
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Decent year from an average producer. Nothing to write home about but should be enjoyable. I'd drink it now.
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

An excellent wine and at 22 years it is well ready for drinking. With great care it might even improve over the next couple of decades.

It is certainly not too young to drink now.

Half the enjoyment you will get from this wine is when you thank Mr. & Mrs. N for their generosity, or perhaps share it with them when you invite them over for a barbecue.

Be very careful with the cork. It needs to be treated nicely.
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Old 09.08.2021, 18:20
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Crianza? Reserva? We need to know more...
As I said, I've no idea about wine!

It's Gran Reserva.

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Half the enjoyment you will get from this wine is when you thank Mr. & Mrs. N for their generosity
This, definitely. We're not quite friends, but we've been friendly over the past 15 years or so.
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It's Gran Reserva.
You could hold on to it for a few more years (10 max) but it won't be significantly better. I'd enjoy it now.
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Then I agree with Paxti and bowlie...drink it now; it's a nice wine from a middle-of-the road producer. Worth about 20 Euro.
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

I will drink it now*. I'm just worried about "be very careful with the cork". I just take it out with my winged corkscrew thingy.

Mind you, I know now where to go when our neighbours give us their keys to look after their cats. I'm reminded of Black Books - these wines, don't drink. But these you're welcome to any. Somewhere here... (whole episode worth watching - a genius sitcom enjoyed by my French, German and Swiss colleagues).




* With some friends, this Saturday.
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Well, if Mr. Neighbour had a cellar, he's probably kept the bottle well; that is, the cork has been hydrated all that time. But you never know. I think bowlie is concerned that it might be crumbly. Just open carefully and examine the cork for dryness. If the wine smells OK and the cork is springy, then you're OK. Salud!
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Make sure the cork is moist at the bottom, hopefully it’s been on its side for 20+ years, and is on its side now. (If the cork is dried through can probably chuck it now)

When you put the cork screw in do it slowly and make sure it goes all the way through the bottom. Pull out slowly… Smell the cork, if it’s corked you will know immediately. Otherwise decant it and let it breathe.
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

I find this app useful to judge whether a bottle of wine at Denner really is a "bargain" or not: https://www.vivino.com/app

Just take a pic of the label with the app, and it gives you an average rating (and also an average price!). If the label is damaged in some way, you can search by typing in the name of the wine instead ...
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

For its price category, Faustina is a very decent wine. As other have said, if it was stored properly (on its side rather than standing) it shouldn't have gone bad. 22 years is not too old for a decent vintage.
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Then I agree with Paxti and bowlie...drink it now; it's a nice wine from a middle-of-the road producer. Worth about 20 Euro.

I think its worth over 100. The '99 is not readily available, but the '94 is

CHF 130


https://www.vivino.com/CH/en/bodegas...1837?year=1999
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

https://www.winemag.com/buying-guide...ranillo-rioja/

Switzerlanded, anyone?

Correction: This was indeed an old 2012 price, but wine-searcher lists it as now not available, but last available in January 2021 at 35 Euro. I stand corrected. No way is it over 100.
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My wife dealt with the weeds growing over our parking spaces that are shared with our neighbours. Mrs Neighbour was so grateful for the hard work that she gifted us a bottle of 1999 wine from Mr Neighbour's cellar. I'm sure it will be lovely, but I've no real idea about wine that age.

It's a Faustina Rioja 1999.

Anyone have any knowledge of this year and particular mark? I do not have the facilities to lay it down for another twenty decades. Or weeks.
It’s an ok wine that is in all likelihood past its peak but may surprise and give great pleasure for a couple of hours. The latest vintage chart from Wine Enthusiast scores the vintage 90 overall and that it may be past its peak.

CellarTracker shows an aggregated score of 88.9 and indicates the drinking window as 2010-2017. It may be in decline but you probably won’t know it!

Most important is how the bottle was stored. Fluctuations in temperature are disastrous for wine so hopefully it has been stored properly. There will likely be a significant amount of sediment in the bottle. I recommend standing the bottle at least 24 hours before you plan to open it. When you open it decant it carefully with a single pour but try to stop when you see sediment in the shoulder of the bottle. There will likely be a good 2cms of wine left in the bottle. This you should discard. Enjoy
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I find this app useful to judge whether a bottle of wine at Denner really is a "bargain" or not: https://www.vivino.com/app

Just take a pic of the label with the app, and it gives you an average rating (and also an average price!). If the label is damaged in some way, you can search by typing in the name of the wine instead ...
This app. Take a picture of the label and you’re good to go…
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

I drank a lot of Faustino (I, V and VII) in my Spanish days..



Its a nice Rioja (well the I is - steer clear of the V and VII). As a none French wine it does not cellar (I'm a bit of a wine snob and believe only French wines cellar well).


Faustino used to number their I bottles but to be honest this is just a gimmick.


Long story short - don't get your hopes up that this is a unicorn of great wines. It's not, but what it is is a good Rioja with a great body and taste.


Just drink it fast before it tastes of vinegar!
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

I could tell you more about it if I drink it
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Re: Wine from a neighbour

Hey - it means that you are really valued as a neighbor. That‘s not so easy to achieve here in Switzerland. ENJOY !!!
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Hey - it means that you are really valued as a neighbor. That‘s not so easy to achieve here in Switzerland. ENJOY !!!
I don't agree, why do you think Swiss will not value you?
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