You mean I should go get infected by a vaccinated person when I'm freshly tested healthy? Why would I do that?

Shouldn't that be in the covid thread? Mod?
Just saying.

I actually think this thread is kind of important, this division within the country is a unprecedented situation in Switzerland. It's against everything Switzerland stands for.
So it should be kept clear of pro/anti vaccination but about what the situation of the two party society will cause, how it will develop, who seriously suffers while how creative some will become.
Anything basic about covid and opinions about it should be moved strictly to the covid thread .

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So move your butt and look at it from the other side

I did not realise it was approved for use in Switzerland, are you saying it's now an option?

Me either. Plenty of hysterical wailing from them in this thread though.

It's approved by Swissmedic, but BAG did not buy it. Not sure what this means in practice, e.g. if a doctor could order it for you.

I’m sure these people are dedicated and all that, but it is their employers that are not to be trusted. Maybe you should have a look at the following:

So they should have no problem getting a negative test result.

Link does not work just see "Sorry, had to reupload this video, its the same as the poorly uploaded previous version. United States, Delta variant, acknowledge the war has changed"

they have exactly the same vaccine you did. why you can go free but they need to pay for a test every 3 days ?

She explained herself many times over.

I happen to disagree with her assessment but you can't accuse her of not explaining it.

Yes, I was taking the piss.

But actually: While Switzerland had depths of 0.3 "Milliarden" (I write it in German as it always leads to misunderstanding in translations), 2020 added 15.5 "Milliarden" in depths! admin.ch, sorry, only in three languages of the country.

You know, Switzerland is this "funny" country which does not believe in spending money it ain't got. And all the hard work Maurer did is for naught. He may be SVP but he is gooood at finances. And I don't know if he will stay in the Bundesrat long enough to get us out of this again, after all, he will want to retire some day.

You will argue that it was not the vaccine (alone) which got us here and you're right. But 400 million franks a year (bloody hell, where did you get that number?) is not the way to go.

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So move your butt and look at it from the other side

Exactly

And its not just the cost of the vaccine. Look at all the restaurants who are going under. Look at all the other long term damage. The government is going to have to do a lot of bailing out and fixing for years to come.

And all this because a couple of people were scared of a virus that wasn't going to kill them anyway, and nobody had the balls to tell them to go f.o.?

Future generations are going to be scratching their heads wondering how we could all be so stupid.

J&J has been approved in Switzerland but they (the government) put their order in a little late! I think I read somewhere that supplies would arrive by year end? Not sure...

My OH and I were vaccinated with the J&J vaccine this summer in the US.

First thing I did when we returned back was to apply for a COVID certificate here in Switzerland. It took 2 weeks for them to process but we have it now. Very happy with the timing!

Tell that to my landlord who ended up in the iCU because of covid. Or a neighbor who died of it. Sorry, but now you’re just ignoring the facts.

Naaa, that's the job of the vaccinated now.
They will all be obese and alcoholics once this thing is over.

Did you have any side-effects from it (minor .... major)

Some entrepreneurs will buy the restaurants and any other failed businesses for rappen on the franc and the economy will surge up again

Thanks for spending your last CHF while free on Rüebliland, ZH did not deserve them

Your freedoms aren’t limited. You are free to make a choice, get vaccinated and have a social life, or don’t get vaccinated at stay the f@&k at home. Feel free to make your preferred choice.

Isn't it strange that the cheerleaders of the government all know several people who have died or been in ICU. One facebook friend claims six close relatives have died.

So if you don't want to die, better not have too many cheerleader friends.

Some people have friends, others ignore reality by living in a pretend world.

Yes, this. And here are some further examples of people I understand to be in in CliiniMuus's Category One.

Registration: Anyone else whose administration, registration or similar is not up-to-date or not deemed relevant. As an example: a Swiss friend of mine who lives abroad and is currenlty visiting his family Switzerland, but is not registered as residing here (because he truly doesn't).

Booking: People who don't have the online resources (no pc, no laptop, old phone), or if they do, who lack the technical skills to use same to book an appointment online. Or who lack the social skills or language competency to book an appointment in person. And who do not have friends to whom they could appeal, for help, and don't know where else to go to ask for help, or no-one has time to help them, or the place to which they appeal is not in charge of such matters.

Time Planning: Persons who are not cognitively able or not psychologically sufficiently stable to figure out how to get themselves an appointment, and/or to find their way to the place, and/or to ensure they can coordinate their time properly to actually turn up there as arranged.

Addiction: Persons who have managed to get the appointment, and managed to turn up, but who are then too intoxicated with their addictive substance(s), so that the medical staff turn them away, deeming them not robust enough (at least not then and there) to receive a vaccination.

Human Trafficking: Persons who have been lured into the country by traffickers, and now work as prostitutes or household slaves but, having had their passports confiscated by their pimps, and having been threatened that, were they to try to escape the Swiss authorities would imprison them, may want to get vaccinated but cannot move out of the grid in which they have been entrapped.

Organisation, Mobility and Exhaustion: Persons who need support due to their physical, cognitive or psychological impairments, to cope with arranging, getting to, understanding and safely submitting themselves to the vaccination, but who don't, in fact, have someone to provide that support. This could be because they don't know where to apply for it or don't have the energy to figure out how to get help from, say, a volunteer organisation or perhaps from a Spitex.

Money, or lack thereof: Persons who need transport, and/or to pay someone to help them, but who can't because they don't have enough money to pay for the helpers' wages.

And so on.

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