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Old 13.09.2021, 13:00
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Sure they are aware, you hand over your insurance card before being vaccinated.


They may not know right now, but all the inforamtion is available somewhere.....
Of course they're aware. They pay 50% of the cost.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:04
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Re: Last Day Before Your Freedoms are Limited

Yes, they cannot export a list of vaccinated or unvaccinated people. They can verify the vaccination status (by Swiss vaccination centers) of an individual if there is a reason to request this info (e.g. the person in question is asking for a certificate) but that request is logged to avoid abuse.

At least that's how it goes officially. Fraud occurs in any country (in the NL a temp worker was recently tried for looking up exes and famous people willy nilly).
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:06
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Self-help group

I might become very religious for a while.
And afterward, join AA.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:08
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with average lifespan being somewhere in the mid 80s, you would expect about 1.25% of the population to die every year anyway.
The sad truth right now is Australia and NZ have been in a lockdown mode for almost 2 years trying to protect the vulnerable in society.

But a large portion of these covid vulnerable people have already died even without corona, and certainly their quality of life went to the gutter as they have been closed like prisoners while the rest of the healthy population has been advised to masturbate together instead of having sex with their partners.
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Post vaccination, that may be the case.

However, currently, the percentage of people who tested positive and later died of covid is currently 1.36% for Switzerland and 1.85% for the UK. That's just calculating the current stats on worldometers.
Yes, but that's no longer relevant as the Situation has completely changed.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:18
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Even if they have the data they shouldn't (by law) so are not allowed to use it. I'm not a lawyer but sounds like a rather straightforward court with predictable outcome to me. Am I wrong?
You are wrong on one thing. Civil courts case rarely work out exactly as planned. What one person thinks is an open and shut case, and advised so by the lawyers, often turns out not to be.

Maybe I'm too cynical.
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Re: Last Day Before Your Freedoms are Limited

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You are wrong on one thing. Civil courts case rarely work out exactly as planned. What one person thinks is an open and shut case, and advised so by the lawyers, often turns out not to be.

Maybe I'm too cynical.
I ended my post with "Am I wrong?" for a reason. I'm also on the cynical side of the spectrum.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:29
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And afterward, join AA.
I'm afraid I will have to leave space there for the vaccinated after they single handedly saved all the bars, discos and pubs.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:41
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You are wrong on one thing. Civil courts case rarely work out exactly as planned. What one person thinks is an open and shut case, and advised so by the lawyers, often turns out not to be.

Maybe I'm too cynical.
No need for civil court attempts. We got the protection official for this and he doesn't need to be asked, he acts on his own.
That would be Mr. Adrian Lobsinger at the time and he is already aware of all kinds of shortcomings and solving them.
example, sorry, German.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:43
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The sad truth right now is Australia and NZ have been in a lockdown mode for almost 2 years trying to protect the vulnerable in society.

But a large portion of these covid vulnerable people have already died even without corona, and certainly their quality of life went to the gutter as they have been closed like prisoners while the rest of the healthy population has been advised to masturbate together instead of having sex with their partners.
What?
You can't spread this sh** without source/evidence-link.
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Old 13.09.2021, 13:47
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What?
You can't spread this sh** without source/evidence-link.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyl...f2c8ffaf95ee76
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Re: Last Day Before Your Freedoms are Limited

Absolute insanity. ‘You may want to avoid face-to-face contact’.
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As I understand, already got an email from a sports club family participates, there is this exception for people who regularly train together, certain max. 30 I think. The way it was written seems to be made for football clubs. Seems some gyms and the like are tacking on to this to set up specific training hour sessions to meet this criterion. In my case, it is a set group of people, less than 30, that regularly meet for sport X on day X at X pm. So fits the bill. But admit there is probably a big loophole here that gyms are using now that probably wasn't anticipated.
surely any organized group activity in a gym attracts more or less the same participants in every session, week in week out? Ditto for salsa classes or aerobics or yoga or tai-chi classes or whatever? So should these all be exempted?
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Canadians did it even before the aussies...))

 Consider sexual positions that avoid being face-to-face.

https://www.toronto.ca/wp-content/up...g_COVID-19.pdf

for those who understand sex does this mean kissing is strongly disapproved and french kissing is like fondling with death ?
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Old 13.09.2021, 14:13
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I forgot to copy - paste this

so read carefully and say if this is not something copied from the republic of Gilead or the talibans ...

Wear a face covering or mask. Heavy breathing during sex can create more droplets that may transmit COVID-19.

Avoid or limit kissing and saliva exchange.

Choose sexual positions that limit face-to-face contact.

Use barriers, like walls (e.g., glory holes), that allow for sexual contact but prevent close face-to-face contact.


https://theliberal.ie/covid-19-alert...-organization/
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surely any organized group activity in a gym attracts more or less the same participants in every session, week in week out? Ditto for salsa classes or aerobics or yoga or tai-chi classes or whatever? So should these all be exempted?
I suspect it reflects the stronger (deeper pockets) of the professional sports clubs lobbying powers than anything else.

Like most things it doesn't add up to the average joe who can't go to the gym, etc.. But if they join a group, they can. And where does it stop?, the local ladies club (sportive or not) who enjoy a weekly afternoon out at the cafe. Don't see a difference.

30x30x30x30....seems to add up more than the average 2x4x6x2... that most people would do anyhow on an average week of going about business as usual.
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<<“Wear a three-layer mask to cover your nose and mouth if you can,” the website reads. It also advises “avoid kissing” and “wear condoms and dental dams”.>>
I had to look up dental dam. I used to have them, shame I threw them away.

I don't know which side of the covid spectrum is crazier than the other. Even the conspiracy-anti-vaxxers slowly start looking less nuts. And that means, I might start grinding my teeth again in my sleep and I will need new dental dams.
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SLR (Switzerland Live Report)

Report 1- One of the local restaurant has a lady stationed at the entrance, she is checking Covid certificates. Lady looks very motivated. Everyone is without mask enjoying the food, Covid is in pause mode currently at the restaurant

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Young adults and old people not wearing mask on the bus. One particular old lady was told off by another lady last week, but she does not care and is still not wearing any mask. She is the spitting image of older Margaret Thatcher!

Back to EF. Oh, I think I just farted.
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Old 13.09.2021, 15:07
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SLR (Switzerland Live Report)

Report 1- One of the local restaurant has a lady stationed at the entrance, she is checking Covid certificates. Lady looks very motivated. Everyone is without mask enjoying the food, Covid is in pause mode currently at the restaurant

Report 2-
Young adults and old people not wearing mask on the bus. One particular old lady was told off by another lady last week, but she does not care and is still not wearing any mask. She is the spitting image of older Margaret Thatcher!

Back to EF. Oh, I think I just farted.
She must look ancient. How come she is still alive in covid times?

So you had your first lunch being able to watch people talk with their mouth full and picking their noses? Good on you! Let me guess: Migros Restaurant? Zur Feier des Tages?
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