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But you don‘t cry about not having the flu shot either. So like schoggiwhatever said, no one cries about the flu shot.
Indeed.

My wife gets them yearly, I've never had the flu, nor even a serious cold, so I don't.

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I'm not usually one for censorship but surely a line has been crossed here. On behalf of all Jewish people...how ing dare you?!
May I kindly ask, how one gets an authority to speak on behalf of all Jewish people? Seriously interested... (jewish myself)
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Old 12.09.2021, 16:44
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Will report this post to the police.
We are not in Germany.

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Old 12.09.2021, 16:46
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Well, I believe that most “thinking” people have been vaccinated.
You are certainly not alone in thinking that, but you and all that believe that with you, are wrong.
Vaccine "hesitancy" is highest amoung PhDs.

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Old 12.09.2021, 16:46
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Indeed.

My wife gets them yearly, I've never had the flu, nor even a serious cold, so I don't.

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People should study you, like in a lab. Maybe you scare away germs.
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Indeed.

My wife gets them yearly, I've never had the flu, nor even a serious cold, so I don't.

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Same here
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Old 12.09.2021, 16:48
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Wow, am also Jewish. Will report this post to the police.
For what reason?

As a jew perhaps you have even less off an excuse to make excuses for facism. Have you learned nothing from history?
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Old 12.09.2021, 16:50
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For what reason?
For being an unsatisfied keyboard warrior
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May I kindly ask, how one gets an authority to speak on behalf of all Jewish people? Seriously interested... (jewish myself)
Fair enough, I'm surprised and shocked to see someone compare the horrors of the Holocaust to not being able to go into a restaurant. I ( falsely) assumed most would see it that way. Deplorable attitude imo but that seems to pretty standard on this site now.
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Old 12.09.2021, 16:52
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You don't need a pass to eat if a restaurant has an outside terrace in Italy. Is it the same from Monday in CH ?
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If you allow your physical integrity to be violated through coercion you are not free by definition.
I wasn't coerced. I don't know anyone who's vaccinated who has been coerced.

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Sounds awfully familiar...
Well done! Yes. The Holocaust is exactly as awful as a voluntary vaccination program. Fantastic comparison. Not the least bit vile and distasteful!
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Yes.

I wasn't coerced. I don't know anyone who's vaccinated who has been coerced.

Well done! Yes. The Holocaust is exactly as awful as a voluntary vaccination program. Fantastic comparison. Not the least bit vile and distasteful!
Voluntary vaccination program? Time to catch up on the news bud.
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Fair enough, I'm surprised and shocked to see someone compare the horrors of the Holocaust to not being able to go into a restaurant. I ( falsely) assumed most would see it that way. Deplorable attitude imo but that seems to pretty standard on this site now.

I don't agree with those parallels (makes me feel sick), but can't and won't stop anyone from thinking/expressing that way. As long as it's within legal boundaries, I have to simply look over it...
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Old 12.09.2021, 16:59
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Well done! Yes. The Holocaust is exactly as awful as a voluntary vaccination program. Fantastic comparison. Not the least bit vile and distasteful!
If you say you don't see how making certain rights conditional on vaccination (or resource wasting through testing) is not a form of coercion, you are either being intellectually dishonest or really really dumb.
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Old 12.09.2021, 17:00
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Wow, am also Jewish. Will report this post to the police.
Interesting that some of those who thought your post here was disgusting think that post was acceptable.

Whatever else it is, it is trivialising the Holocaust and that's a pretty wicked thing to do.
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Old 12.09.2021, 17:02
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If you say you don't see how making certain rights conditional on vaccination (or resource wasting through testing) is not a form of coercion, you are either being intellectually dishonest or really really dumb.
Neither. I wasn't coerced. Your contention was that if you have had the vaccine you've been coerced. Wrong! Proof by contradiction.

Your contention was not that you aren't being coerced. To an extent you are. You're being forced into the position of getting vaccinated, getting regular testing, or abide by restrictions. I think it is reasonable and proportionate. Going to a bar, restaurant, gym etc. is not exactly a human right.

I'd guess most (not all) people who've been vaxxed think the measures are ok, and most who (not all) haven't, think otherwise. Clearly the hardcore refusers will never think otherwise.

Either way - it ain't the Holocaust, and that's a disgraceful comparison for that poster to make.
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Fair enough, I'm surprised and shocked to see someone compare the horrors of the Holocaust to not being able to go into a restaurant. I ( falsely) assumed most would see it that way. Deplorable attitude imo but that seems to pretty standard on this site now.
Ok pop-quiz time! What were the first rights the Jews had taken away from them?

I'll answer:



Does the items on that list ring a bell?

The holcaust (or any genocide in history) did not start with death camps. There's a road towards it.

It seems no-one knows their history.
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Those who choose not to get vaccinated should (i) be allowed to die if they fall sick from covid, and (ii) a bill for their stay in any hospital should be sent to their estate, and fully deducted from any assets in their estate, until 100% of the bill has been recovered or the assets fully depleted.

If the rest of us have endless restrictions imposed on us because hospitalization rates go up (mainly from unvaccinated types) I will personally help covid achieve point (i) above!
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Those who choose not to get vaccinated should (i) be allowed to die if they fall sick from covid, and (ii) a bill for their stay in any hospital should be sent to their estate, and fully deducted from any assets in their estate, until 100% of the bill has been recovered or the assets fully depleted.

If the rest of us have endless restrictions imposed on us because hospitalization rates go up (mainly from unvaccinated types) I will personally help covid achieve point (i) above!
Not really, no. Everyone pays NI and have equal access to NHS
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Unfortunately there are many ignorant people around i.e those that neither bother to inform themselves of the current situation, nor are willing to take measures to tackle it.

I believe thatI am not alone in thinking, that these people should be exiled to a field, living in tents, and living off their own produce.
You might not be alone but nonetheless quite insalubrious

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No surprises here.

Your queen was castrating males just 60 years ago for being openly gay, and I bet the likes of you were saying exactly the same words back then
Don’t know much about the queen’s proclivity to castrate gays until 69 years ago - didn't she have better stuff to do?. But would like to remind those of you unaware of a time honoured custom in India of reprieving the poor tethered goat (no tents for them, I’ll let you know) before nightfall on a tiger hunt. While this tradition might spark mild criticism in terms of gender equality, it is nonetheless remarkable that in most cases the substitute was the most annoying villager of Swiss/UK citizenship w/o any knowledge of languages except English. Protestations to the contrary were usually drowned out by pitiful screams and hungry snarls in the dark.
The Raj at it’s best imposed peaceful village life!
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Those who choose not to get vaccinated should (i) be allowed to die if they fall sick from covid, and (ii) a bill for their stay in any hospital should be sent to their estate, and fully deducted from any assets in their estate, until 100% of the bill has been recovered or the assets fully depleted.

If the rest of us have endless restrictions imposed on us because hospitalization rates go up (mainly from unvaccinated types) I will personally help covid achieve point (i) above!
That could be acceptable but does not work with a mandatory (socialized!) health insurance. Further the same should apply for other actions regarded as potentially detrimental to ones health (smoking, being obese, lack of working out, drug use, alacohol use, doing dangerous sports, driving a car, varying sexual contacts, not sleeping 8 hours a day etc etc).

At that point I'd simply drop the health insurance and be done with it
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