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True story: We bought a new grill that happens to have a smoker attached. Knowing our neighbors we certainly did not plan on using the smoker, but it came with the model we wanted for other features. Well, the neighbor called the police before we even finished setting up the grill, let alone use it. The smoker is now an expensive plant stand.

Yes, strictly speaking grilling outside and/or smoking is allowed, or at least not forbidden, except in drought conditions. Nonetheless, any cooking aroma may be an offense to some Swiss sensibilities. Add in the visual of a happy middle aged man BBQ'ing, as seen through twitched curtains, and the Geraniumpolizei spring into action.

Hopefully YMMV, and you'll be fine grilling, smoking, and BBQing in the more relaxed Romandie.
My Swiss neighbours are grilling in their share of garden since it gets warm and sunny outside and they do produce a fair amount of smoke. They have teenagers and we often have loud (for CH anyway ) garden parties and I don't think anyone has ever called the police on them.
I truly believe not everyone in the CH's German side is so strict. I think there are some places a lot more conservative than others but in general, there are a lot of things you can still do if you watch around and see how the others are doing them here. Plus frankly I am not "afraid" of my neighbours for a long time ....kind of feel like my home is my home. (maybe I shouldn't lol)
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Re: Where to get firewood and cooking wood - Vaud.

No idea where you living in Vaud, but go ask the commune, they wil ltell you which farmers suppyl and deliver wood.


As a guide, for standard firewood, beech/hard wood, I paye per stere (1 cubic meter, about 850-900kg) cut to 50 or 33cm Chf 140.-- delivered and he will stack for an extra Chf 20.-- per stere.


I have used the same guy for about 15 years, price has increased by Chf 30 over that time, i buy about 8-9 steres per year.
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Plus frankly I am not "afraid" of my neighbours for a long time ....kind of feel like my home is my home. (maybe I shouldn't lol)
You get can nasty neighbours in any country. Some people just aren't nice.

The question here though is why is everyone else kowtowing to them?
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No idea where you living in Vaud, but go ask the commune, they wil ltell you which farmers suppyl and deliver wood.


As a guide, for standard firewood, beech/hard wood, I paye per stere (1 cubic meter, about 850-900kg) cut to 50 or 33cm Chf 140.-- delivered and he will stack for an extra Chf 20.-- per stere.


I have used the same guy for about 15 years, price has increased by Chf 30 over that time, i buy about 8-9 steres per year.
This is great info! When we register at the commune, I'll certainly ask.
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Hi All,

As always, folks here have been a great help, and so yet another question.

We will be moving into our new place in December, and yesterday I heard that our container from Japan is scheduled to hit Antwerp around 20 November, meaning that it should hopefully arrive at our house around the same time we get it. Yay!

One of our main reasons for getting a house with a yard, and a little distance from the neighbors, was because of my barbecue machine. This is not what most folks think of when they think of a barbecue, it's much bigger, much bigger, don't believe me, go click on the link... yes, it's 920 pounds (420 kg) and makes beautiful things. https://langbbqsmokers.com/smoker-co...-deluxe-patio/

Anyway, it likes wood best, in the US I would feed it oak, maple, cherry, apple, hickory, mesquite, and others. In Japan, I fed it mainly cherry, apple, and oak. Now I'm starting to look for a good wood seller. In Indonesia, it usually had oak, and some other fruit woods. The size of the wood isn't as important to me as is the quality - should be well seasoned and dry. Unseasoned or damp wood is usually smokey and doesn't make as clean a fire, which makes the food taste nowhere near as good.

Also we will have a fireplace in the new house, and while I am not adverse to some hard work and busting some logs down to size, I won't have any on my property, so I need some. Again, I can age and season it myself for next year, but we'd like some fires this year.

So, has anyone got a good wood source that they can share with me? I'd like to talk with the supplier, often the good guys are obsessive about their wood, and can tell you not only the type, and where and when they cut it, but they can also measure the dryness and such. Often really good pizza places that use wood have a good source, so even a lead such as "This guy in Nyon/Gland/Le Vaud/Lausanne/Morges/Coppett/where ever, makes great pizzas in his wood burning oven," can help me a lot. In Indonesia, I tracked down my wood supply through an Italian who raved about pizza made by some folks in a little village about two hours outside the city.

Of course, once we are set up (and find a good butcher - expect that question soon enough), those who've us helped so far can expect an invite for lunch or dinner with my thanks!

The biggest thing... no pine or conifer wood please!

Hmm.. unfortunately i cannot help with your question. But, when the time comes, i will be more than willing to emm.. help.. with the quality testing of the wood you found
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Hmm.. unfortunately i cannot help with your question. But, when the time comes, i will be more than willing to emm.. help.. with the quality testing of the wood you found
Sounds good! Also seeing meat prices - you’re more than welcome to bring some.
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Re: Where to get firewood and cooking wood - Vaud.

LOL ...

What is the law, I admit I have NO idea, about importing wood from nearby France where it will be cheaper.

I also imagine that if you go and look at smaller villages at the foot of the Jura, prices will be totally different to GVA.

Here the best wood is either beech, as Meloncollie said, or ash. The price depends on size, 1m, 50cm, 33 cm is the most current for fireplaces/woodburners, and if you buy fresh and store, or buy seasoned wood. Beware of not buying wood that is several years old as it will be too dry, burn too fast and not be so calorific.
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LOL ...

What is the law, I admit I have NO idea, about importing wood from nearby France where it will be cheaper.

I also imagine that if you go and look at smaller villages at the foot of the Jura, prices will be totally different to GVA.

Here the best wood is either beech, as Meloncollie said, or ash. The price depends on size, 1m, 50cm, 33 cm is the most current for fireplaces/woodburners, and if you buy fresh and store, or buy seasoned wood. Beware of not buying wood that is several years old as it will be too dry, burn too fast and not be so calorific.

Have you ever considered the transport cost ?


Are their customs fees and taxes due ?


What about supporting your local commune and residents ?


He's not in GVA he's in Vaud and to boot, there are places in France FAR FAR closer than the foot of Jura !


As for dry wood, as he want's if for his rather monumental sized barbeque, the dryer the better, he's not after heating wood for calorific value but quick burning for cooking with
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Have you ever considered the transport cost ?


Are their customs fees and taxes due ?


What about supporting your local commune and residents ?


He's not in GVA he's in Vaud and to boot, there are places in France FAR FAR closer than the foot of Jura !


As for dry wood, as he want's if for his rather monumental sized barbeque, the dryer the better, he's not after heating wood for calorific value but quick burning for cooking with
Oh I plan to get my wood as local as possible. I'm glad to see so many sources close to where I'll be, and stopping by the local commune offices and asking is definitely on my list of first things to do. I also am hesitant about bringing wood across borders, as where I grew up, they request you not to bring firewood from more than twenty five miles from where you'll use it, due to insects and various tree diseases that can be transferred.

I plan to get wood for the fireplace as well as the barbecue. And I know that there's a difference, and my wallet will tell me as well.

Bone dry wood is best for the barbecue, very true, and that's not what I'd put in the fireplace usually!


Now as for buying meat, France sounds like the current option, but I would love to befriend a local butcher and farmers, often there's a slight premium, but there's benefits as well. I knew a few boar hunters in Japan, and I'd get some of that meat occasionally.
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Now as for buying meat, France sounds like the current option, but I would love to befriend a local butcher and farmers, often there's a slight premium, but there's benefits as well.
Of course you are restricted on how much meat you can bring back into Switzerland which is not that much. Although I don't eat meat when we are ever stopped, the customs are obsessed if we have it!

Not sure where you are in Vaud but one of our local butchers in Ste-Croix up from Yverdon is fantastic - (one of my dearest friends in France comes over and gets all her meat there which he packs up ready to freeze). I am sure you will find one and will strike up a good relationship though.
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Oh I plan to get my wood as local as possible. I'm glad to see so many sources close to where I'll be, and stopping by the local commune offices and asking is definitely on my list of first things to do. I also am hesitant about bringing wood across borders, as where I grew up, they request you not to bring firewood from more than twenty five miles from where you'll use it, due to insects and various tree diseases that can be transferred.

I plan to get wood for the fireplace as well as the barbecue. And I know that there's a difference, and my wallet will tell me as well.

Bone dry wood is best for the barbecue, very true, and that's not what I'd put in the fireplace usually!


Now as for buying meat, France sounds like the current option, but I would love to befriend a local butcher and farmers, often there's a slight premium, but there's benefits as well. I knew a few boar hunters in Japan, and I'd get some of that meat occasionally.
Yes. For prices you cant beat France. Thats were im getting the meat im bringing from

Maybe you can go to small local shops and ask where they get their meat from? Im sure not all of them supply migros and coop!
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Re: Where to get firewood and cooking wood - Vaud.

Some more background on purchasing wood from communes and farmers.

Wood in CH is cut to 1 metre length and split before being bundled (you will see the round bundles quite often stacked in long lines when you are out in the country side). It is normally dried for 2 or 3 years - depending from what I understand to be the hotness of the summer and of course the demand before being ready to sell.

Be careful with the communes. Our commune only sells cut but green wood from the current year. It is up to you to store and dry it for 2-3 years. It is much cheaper but not usable until it is dry.

The other aspect about the wood is that the mix of hard/soft can vary alot depending on the trees that the farmer has. Harder wood will normally cost more. You will need someone who speaks French to talk with the farmer. You should also have a list of the major tree types in FR and EN so you will recognize the wood names that are being proposed.

Once the the late summer/fall arrives, the farmer will start preparing the wood for sale (some will do so only once they have an order). The wood can be purchased in 1m, 33/30cm and 25cm lengths. The 1 metre is cheapest (not very common to buy this size) and it is up to you to cut it, the 33/30 is normal for a typical open fireplace. Since many people here have a "Swedish fireplace" or potbelly style stove they will order the 25cm size since it fits best. The 25cm size will be the most expensive since there is an additional cut per 1 metre compared to the 33/30 size. It is up to you to specify what size you want when you order the wood.

As mentioned, the stere is the cubic size used to sell the wood. It is 1m3. It is also the minimum order size that most farmers, communes will accept. If you go to Hornbach or Coop Brico you willl see it stacked/wrapped on a Euro Pallet. The challenge with purchasing from a store is the delivery unless you know somone with a trailer. The store may also offer a delivery service. Imported wood (Eastern Europe) will be cheaper than CH. You will often see both for sale.

You will also need someplace to stack the wood that will remain dry. Or you have some sort of tarp system that protects the wood. Also as mentioned the farmer will normally just dump the wood in the driveway. It is up to you to stack it. Some do offer the stacking service at an addition charge.
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Some more background on purchasing wood from communes and farmers.

Wood in CH is cut to 1 metre length and split before being bundled (you will see the round bundles quite often stacked in long lines when you are out in the country side). It is normally dried for 2 or 3 years - depending from what I understand to be the hotness of the summer and of course the demand before being ready to sell.

Be careful with the communes. Our commune only sells cut but green wood from the current year. It is up to you to store and dry it for 2-3 years. It is much cheaper but not usable until it is dry.

The other aspect about the wood is that the mix of hard/soft can vary alot depending on the trees that the farmer has. Harder wood will normally cost more. You will need someone who speaks French to talk with the farmer. You should also have a list of the major tree types in FR and EN so you will recognize the wood names that are being proposed.

Once the the late summer/fall arrives, the farmer will start preparing the wood for sale (some will do so only once they have an order). The wood can be purchased in 1m, 33/30cm and 25cm lengths. The 1 metre is cheapest (not very common to buy this size) and it is up to you to cut it, the 33/30 is normal for a typical open fireplace. Since many people here have a "Swedish fireplace" or potbelly style stove they will order the 25cm size since it fits best. The 25cm size will be the most expensive since there is an additional cut per 1 metre compared to the 33/30 size. It is up to you to specify what size you want when you order the wood.

As mentioned, the stere is the cubic size used to sell the wood. It is 1m3. It is also the minimum order size that most farmers, communes will accept. If you go to Hornbach or Coop Brico you willl see it stacked/wrapped on a Euro Pallet. The challenge with purchasing from a store is the delivery unless you know somone with a trailer. The store may also offer a delivery service. Imported wood (Eastern Europe) will be cheaper than CH. You will often see both for sale.

You will also need someplace to stack the wood that will remain dry. Or you have some sort of tarp system that protects the wood. Also as mentioned the farmer will normally just dump the wood in the driveway. It is up to you to stack it. Some do offer the stacking service at an addition charge.
Thank you. You are making this too easy. Took me years to figure some of this out on my own in my previous situation!
All excellent advice.
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glad I found this thread. I only started smoking this last summer and am a complete amateur but youtube has been great. grilling on the other hand has been a "hobby" since many years

can't give advice on wood but once you get a round to selecting a "meat dealer", let me know... my journey took years but finally found once that is excellent
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Some more background on purchasing wood from communes and farmers.

Wood in CH is cut to 1 metre length and split before being bundled (you will see the round bundles quite often stacked in long lines when you are out in the country side). It is normally dried for 2 or 3 years - depending from what I understand to be the hotness of the summer and of course the demand before being ready to sell.

Be careful with the communes. Our commune only sells cut but green wood from the current year. It is up to you to store and dry it for 2-3 years. It is much cheaper but not usable until it is dry.

The other aspect about the wood is that the mix of hard/soft can vary alot depending on the trees that the farmer has. Harder wood will normally cost more. You will need someone who speaks French to talk with the farmer. You should also have a list of the major tree types in FR and EN so you will recognize the wood names that are being proposed.

Once the the late summer/fall arrives, the farmer will start preparing the wood for sale (some will do so only once they have an order). The wood can be purchased in 1m, 33/30cm and 25cm lengths. The 1 metre is cheapest (not very common to buy this size) and it is up to you to cut it, the 33/30 is normal for a typical open fireplace. Since many people here have a "Swedish fireplace" or potbelly style stove they will order the 25cm size since it fits best. The 25cm size will be the most expensive since there is an additional cut per 1 metre compared to the 33/30 size. It is up to you to specify what size you want when you order the wood.

As mentioned, the stere is the cubic size used to sell the wood. It is 1m3. It is also the minimum order size that most farmers, communes will accept. If you go to Hornbach or Coop Brico you willl see it stacked/wrapped on a Euro Pallet. The challenge with purchasing from a store is the delivery unless you know somone with a trailer. The store may also offer a delivery service. Imported wood (Eastern Europe) will be cheaper than CH. You will often see both for sale.

You will also need someplace to stack the wood that will remain dry. Or you have some sort of tarp system that protects the wood. Also as mentioned the farmer will normally just dump the wood in the driveway. It is up to you to stack it. Some do offer the stacking service at an addition charge.

The wood sizes are actualy 1m/50cm/33cm/25cm
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The wood sizes are actualy 1m/50cm/33cm/25cm
Thanks for that.

Never heard of anyone using the 50cm but it makes a lot of sense depending on the usage.

I noted 30/33 cm since I sometimes see 30 cm advertised (maybe they are covering themselves for not having all pieces exactly 1 m long to start).
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glad I found this thread. I only started smoking this last summer and am a complete amateur but youtube has been great. grilling on the other hand has been a "hobby" since many years

can't give advice on wood but once you get a round to selecting a "meat dealer", let me know... my journey took years but finally found once that is excellent
We aren't going to be too far apart... if you want, I can certainly share my advice/hard earned knowledge/beer with you and we can figure out a source for meat!
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Thanks for that.

Never heard of anyone using the 50cm but it makes a lot of sense depending on the usage.

I noted 30/33 cm since I sometimes see 30 cm advertised (maybe they are covering themselves for not having all pieces exactly 1 m long to start).

Most old stone wood burners, known as a Pierre Ollaire use 50cm also their is a type of wood burner covered with ceramic tiles known as a Mollasse in Vaud that usually take 50cm pieces.
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Re: Where to get firewood and cooking wood - Vaud.

I came across this ad on FB Marketplace for a supplier that is located above Rolle and is very inexpensive - CHF 50/stere. He also offers free delivery as of 5 steres. Does not say what the delivery charge is if you order less.

The wood is hardwood and dry (see the link in FR to the letter/number codes used - you can use Google translate).

It can be cut to any of the standard sizes.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...46201088%22%7D

Link to the codes used in ad: https://www.simplyfeu.com/blog/simpl...-dessences-813
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Wow- that is VERY cheap- I wonder if the wood is over-dry, perhaps. Anyhow, I've sent her a message for clarification.

Even here, 2 year old ash and beech is 100 / stere, cut into 33cm.

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