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Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

Just came back from Villa Honegg, a favourite place of mine to have coffee. The terrace was closed and only guests with reservations were accepted inside due to a huge staff shortage. In fact, I've seen numerous restaurants and hotels looking for staff and not being able to find anyone.

Covid, RAV and horrible working hours have all been reasons given for this predicament. At the moment, restaurants will hire almost anyone just so that they can remain open. This is the perfect opportunity for EU residents to finally find a job in Switzerland.
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Old 17.10.2021, 22:48
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

The reason there is such a shortage of personnel, whether it be restaurant staff, delivery drivers etc. etc. is not because they have literally been killed off by Covid-19.
It is that during the various lockdowns, where these workers have been paid to stay at home, they have had time to reflect on their daily routine and have often come to the conclusion that there are better things to life than continuing to do some bum job until they reach the age of 65.
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

Not just here, UK is having similar challenges.
As long as covid is around, hospitality is industry with lower than average job security, thus interest is lower...
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Old 17.10.2021, 23:39
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

I think we’ll see more restaurants switching to self-service to save on staff.
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Old 18.10.2021, 09:42
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

Such jobs actually pay higher around here than manufacturing jobs, as there is a minimum wage of around 4k for those, and none for manufacturing or shop assistants.

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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

There has been a lot written about 'The Great Resignation'. As me.anon says, people have had a chance to look at their lives and question 'why'. It's happening in all industries, not just hospitality, and not just the lower paid jobs. Even many of those 'paid for the pain' have had enough.

Life changing events have a way of allowing - or forcing - one to reorder priorities. When the life changing event hits worldwide and priorities are examined on a grand scale we see what is going on now. People have come to the conclusion that life is simply too short to spend most of it in soul-destroying drudgery.

If this mindset proves sustainable for the lifestyle people think they now want, the world of work will need to change in some way.

Employers will need to re-think how their businesses are structured. Whether automation - or better pay, better benefits, more humane working conditions, a recognition that employees are something more than cogs in a wheel - every business will need to take a long hard look at what they have been doing.

Some businesses will not survive. Some likely deserve it. Some will adapt, and thrive.
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I think we’ll see more restaurants switching to self-service to save on staff.
I certainly hope not. I hate buffets. If I want self-service I’ll cook at home.
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The reason there is such a shortage of personnel, whether it be restaurant staff, delivery drivers etc. etc. is not because they have literally been killed off by Covid-19.
It is that during the various lockdowns, where these workers have been paid to stay at home, they have had time to reflect on their daily routine and have often come to the conclusion that there are better things to life than continuing to do some bum job until they reach the age of 65.
Uhm OK, if they had such epiphanies and came out after these existential dilemmas with such wisdom and knowledge and perhaps even new degrees (I doubt)....then maybe not complain when the dirty foreigners come and steal their jobs then?
Especially Eastern Europeans, those are the worst even according to this expat forum.
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Old 18.10.2021, 10:26
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

I would advise them to possibly state they're looking for staff.

https://villa-honegg.ch/en/jobs/

Or it is as likely that they are short staffed as they do not have enough customers giving a knock on effect of giving the customers they do have poor service. There's a critical mass needed for these businesses to run smoothly, hiring more staff is no answer if they don't have the customers to serve.
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Uhm OK, if they had such epiphanies and came out after these existential dilemmas with such wisdom and knowledge and perhaps even new degrees (I doubt)....then maybe not complain when the dirty foreigners come and steal their jobs then?
Especially Eastern Europeans, those are the worst even according to this expat forum.
These mainly unskilled jobs were, anyway, mostly done by foreigners. It is quite rare to see Swiss, or local persons if you are not necessarily referring to Switzerland, in these roles.
However, it doesn't even need the epiphany experience. A gradual realisation that if you don't change the car every 2 years and don't need to be seen with the best iPhone, Rolex etc. or eat out a few times a week, you can bring forward a retirement plan a few years or, instead of working 100%, only say 60% would do.
This is also in part why, in situations of normal unemployment, the RAV is so aggressive in (a) making unemployment appear unattractive and (b) attempting to maintain a sort of structure in peoples lives. This is to fight against the natural tendency to diminish ones activity level.
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Uhm OK, if they had such epiphanies and came out after these existential dilemmas with such wisdom and knowledge and perhaps even new degrees (I doubt)....then maybe not complain when the dirty foreigners come and steal their jobs then?
Especially Eastern Europeans, those are the worst even according to this expat forum.
Exactly these are the people who were shunted out first, and are now reluctant to come back again. Some of them just re-evaluated the high social risks of working abroad. I did know some people working in hospitality industry in inner Schweiz and I must say I was appalled by their working conditions.
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Old 18.10.2021, 11:32
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I would advise them to possibly state they're looking for staff.

https://villa-honegg.ch/en/jobs/
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I agree and don’t understand why they aren’t advertising. I know for a fact that they’re understaffed.
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JCovid, RAV and horrible working hours have all been reasons given for this predicament. At the moment, restaurants will hire almost anyone just so that they can remain open. This is the perfect opportunity for EU residents to finally find a job in Switzerland.
The people did not die off and the RAV can only push people with a hospitality background ground into those jobs so I don’t really agree with you there.

However the the lockdown has caused people to reevaluate their lives, seek new employment etc… My local restaurant has closed down for good, they are still running the kitchen but they have contracts to supply meals on wheels and the hours are more social. A good friend of mine has discovered that she can make more money doing flower arrangements and decorations and the hours are more social. And a neighbor has become a truck driver!
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These mainly unskilled jobs were, anyway, mostly done by foreigners. It is quite rare to see Swiss, or local persons if you are not necessarily referring to Switzerland, in these roles.
That may be so in the tourist areas. But in the restaurants around my area the staff are mainly Switzerland. There are plenty of lowly paid Swiss people, they are just not part of the expat horizon.
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Just came back from Villa Honegg, a favourite place of mine to have coffee. The terrace was closed and only guests with reservations were accepted inside due to a huge staff shortage. In fact, I've seen numerous restaurants and hotels looking for staff and not being able to find anyone.

Covid, RAV and horrible working hours have all been reasons given for this predicament. At the moment, restaurants will hire almost anyone just so that they can remain open. This is the perfect opportunity for EU residents to finally find a job in Switzerland.
I'd take that as a quite transparent review of the owners or managers. If no one wants to work with or for them, sure it's covid and RAV....not at all their management style and how they treat their workers.
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Really interesting post… useful opinions, etc

These positions are likely to be 40+ CHF per hour too soon if things go against Switzerland regarding closer ties to the EU. They really need to get better negotiators.

I would also love to hear of more of these job opportunities, keeping a look-out too
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I certainly hope not. I hate buffets. If I want self-service I’ll cook at home.
Maybe I'll open up a restaurant like that. You go there, pay for overpriced ingredients and have to cook it yourself. I'll call it "Home made" and market it to the usual suspects...
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Maybe I'll open up a restaurant like that. You go there, pay for overpriced ingredients and have to cook it yourself. I'll call it "Home made" and market it to the usual suspects...
Why not? They‘re doing it in Budapest!
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Re: Wir suchen... restaurants and hotels understaffed

what are these people doing instead? assuming they didn't all have a trust fund/weren't doing the job just for fun, these people will still have bills to pay after any covid handouts expire - so what jobs are being taken instead?
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what are these people doing instead? assuming they didn't all have a trust fund/weren't doing the job just for fun, these people will still have bills to pay after any covid handouts expire - so what jobs are being taken instead?
I think we need to remember people have feet not roots. Check the immigration and emigration numbers for 2020. Basically, the net migration rate for citizens from Portugal is quite interesting, for short they left. https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home...migration.html

I guess this makes sense. If things are not going well, where do people out of work spends time waiting for the new temp contract? Paying rent in CH? Not that smart if you can wait in a lower cost location, and still flexible to get here in 24h by car when the next opportunity arises.
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