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Re: Are the rumours about swiss people true

Honestly, I have't noticed anyone giving me dirty looks when I speak English. But people here do tend to stare more than we're used to/comfortable with in Anglo-American society. When I discover someone staring at me, I stare right back at them and that usually puts an end to it. Also, I wear sunglasses a lot.

I would just ignore and not take it personally.

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I hope i havent offended anyone with my comments about the swiss sense of humour or anything else ive mentioned. Im not on here to complain and be miserable lol. Hoping some people could give us some tips for avoiding dirty looks when speaking english ect.
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And to be honest, I get a bit pissed at people who want the nice scenery and standard of living to then put down the residents of the country they are in. Don't like it? Go somewhere else!
I agree Kittster. And, it is so easy to forget that back in one's home country, there are loads of people who are obnoxious, etc.

I am looking forward to living in Switzerland, not least because I have some really good Swiss friends. OK, at times their humour can be somewhat laboured, but I have found them charming, hospitable, and good company.

I am a little concerned about the ever-so-slight "Bash a Swiss" feel to some of the threads, especially in Daily Life. I am fairly sure more that one Swiss reads this (wonderful) Forum, and I worry they may be offended! And, we don't want that, do we?
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Old 01.02.2007, 21:04
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Honestly, I have't noticed anyone giving me dirty looks when I speak English. But people here do tend to stare more than we're used to/comfortable with in Anglo-American society. When I discover someone staring at me, I stare right back at them and that usually puts an end to it.
Most people are curious when they hear English spoken, rather than annoyed. Or at least in my experience.

As for the staring, it can get far too much for my level of comfort. When I discover someone staring at me, I stare back. Only they keep staring. I'm starting to taking to waving at them, like "hi! I must know you, you keep staring at me! ". Even then, most are not embarassed enough to stop the damned staring.
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Old 01.02.2007, 21:24
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Even then, most are not embarassed enough to stop the damned staring.
haha .. maybe the person was retarded or something.
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Re: Are the rumours about swiss people true

I'm Canadian, my mum married a Swiss guy about 15 years ago and she lived here with him for 9 years. Now they are back in Canada, he has a chain-saw and a pickup truck and thinks he's in heaven. Peter (step-dad) is a fantastic guy, but he has changed dramatically since becoming a part of our family. When we met him, he didn't hug his kids - they shook hands. Now he "bear hugs" everyone he can get his paws on. Ok, let me find a point here. The thing is, although I understand our cultural differences on an intellectual level, I can't seem to translate that to an emotional comprehension. I know the Swiss don't mean to be unfriendly, they are lovely, genuine, loyal people. However, compared to Canadians (gross generalizations here I know) the Swiss seem very formal and not at all gregarious or fun. When I used to visit my mum over here I loved it, but now that I am living here the "unfriendliness" really gets to me. I miss small talk, I miss banter, I miss LAUGHING! I get tired of everyone being so bloody critical of everyone else (how's that for irony) but I also realize that the reason everything runs so smoothly here is because everyone is making sure everyone else does everything right. It's EXHAUSTING! The way I deal with it currently (brace yourself, it's annoyingly cheerful) is to a critical ratio of expat friends and to make a concerted effort to appreciate the good things about this place. Decent chocolate, cheese, bread and wine in gas station shops - brilliant! Cheap 2hr flights to other countries - cool! A public transit system that works - amazing! Huge ski resorts close to the city - bitchin'! Bartenders who ignore you for 20 minutes even though your tongue is hanging out and you look like you're gonna die if you don't get a drink..... um....
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Old 01.02.2007, 21:55
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Even then, most are not embarassed enough to stop the damned staring.
I flip the bird now. Then they usually stop...
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Old 01.02.2007, 22:34
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haha .. maybe the person was retarded or something.
Which one? This is defnitely not an isolated incident!

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I flip the bird now. Then they usually stop...
I'd love to see ya do it.
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Which one? This is defnitely not an isolated incident!
Do they just stare at women? We come from the same general region in the US. I've never noticed a difference here in how people look at me.
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Old 01.02.2007, 22:49
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Do they just stare at women? We come from the same general region in the US. I've never noticed a difference here in how people look at me.
No, not just at women. My husband gets stared at all the time, too.

Do you look at all different? Different clothes, hairstyle, non-standard appearance?
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Old 01.02.2007, 22:52
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No, not just at women. My husband gets stared at all the time, too.

Do you look at all different? Different clothes, hairstyle, non-standard appearance?
I don't know. I guess not. My hair is too long for me, but I would guess not for the Swiss (30-40 CHF is too much to get it cut more than three times a year!). I typically wear khakis or jeans with a hemd or polo.
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Old 01.02.2007, 22:57
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I'm Canadian, my mum married a Swiss guy about 15 years ago and she lived here with him for 9 years. Now they are back in Canada, he has a chain-saw and a pickup truck and thinks he's in heaven. Peter (step-dad) is a fantastic guy, but he has changed dramatically since becoming a part of our family. When we met him, he didn't hug his kids - they shook hands. Now he "bear hugs" everyone he can get his paws on. Ok, let me find a point here. The thing is, although I understand our cultural differences on an intellectual level, I can't seem to translate that to an emotional comprehension. I know the Swiss don't mean to be unfriendly, they are lovely, genuine, loyal people. However, compared to Canadians (gross generalizations here I know) the Swiss seem very formal and not at all gregarious or fun. When I used to visit my mum over here I loved it, but now that I am living here the "unfriendliness" really gets to me. I miss small talk, I miss banter, I miss LAUGHING! I get tired of everyone being so bloody critical of everyone else (how's that for irony) but I also realize that the reason everything runs so smoothly here is because everyone is making sure everyone else does everything right. It's EXHAUSTING! The way I deal with it currently (brace yourself, it's annoyingly cheerful) is to a critical ratio of expat friends and to make a concerted effort to appreciate the good things about this place. Decent chocolate, cheese, bread and wine in gas station shops - brilliant! Cheap 2hr flights to other countries - cool! A public transit system that works - amazing! Huge ski resorts close to the city - bitchin'! Bartenders who ignore you for 20 minutes even though your tongue is hanging out and you look like you're gonna die if you don't get a drink..... um....
Some nice observations. I don't know about bear hugs, in my 'Swiss family' the men kiss each other of the cheeks. Somewhat over the top to a Brit.

Yes, the Swiss have this strange attraction to the wild ways of North America. You step-father is not the only Swiss who has flipped over great outdoors and pickup trucks - the opposite of all that is Swiss...

The secret is appreciate what is different wherever you are and realise that you can't change a 100s of years of history when you turn up here and demand that everyone behave like they did 'back home'...
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Old 01.02.2007, 23:03
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I typically wear khakis or jeans with a hemd or polo.
I think that's your answer
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I'd love to see ya do it.
It's usually older people who stare, less chance of geting my head kicked in
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I think that's your answer
What do you wear then? You probably received stares back in the States if it was not something "typical"? If so, why so critical of the Swiss? I've found the Swiss to be rather liberal.
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What do you wear then? You probably received stares back in the States if it was not something "typical"? If so, why so critical of the Swiss? I've found the Swiss to be rather liberal.
I think our conception of "liberal" must be quite different.

I've had mainstream-looking Swiss people and respected Swiss professionals also talk about staring (some have brought up this subject on their own), this is not a phenomena relegated just to those who stand out.

Any looks that I or my friends had in the US were done quite differently. People had the decorum to look away when caught staring. And the style of dress and hair color, etc. was far more over the top in the US.

Where you come from, would you or anyone else really stared at the people in this photo?



Nah, I didn't think so. Yet our visitors were stared at to the point where they had to ask why they were being stared at so much everywhere we went.
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Where you come from, would you or anyone else really stared at the people in this photo?
We both come from the Northeast. I would most definitely have stared at more than one of the individuals in this picture if I had seen them in the US.

There is a very good chance that I would have turned away much sooner than the Swiss, as I do not find staring to be a polite. However, I find attempts at "looking different" to be rather stupid.
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We both come from the Northeast. I would most definitely have stared at more than one of the individuals in this picture if I had seen them in the US.

There is a very good chance that I would have turned away much sooner than the Swiss, as I do not find staring to be a polite. However, I find attempts at "looking different" to be rather stupid.
Actually, I was born and raised in the midwest. I lived in the NYC region for 12 years. In neither place would those people have been stared at for more than just a lingering glance by a significant number of people. Here it was out and out staring.

I see nothing to stare at with these people. At all.

What you see as attempts to "look different" is really just people (musicians in this case, plus my husband) to be themselves.

I find attempts to "fit in" at all costs to be beyond stupid, quite frankly.
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Actually, I was born and raised in the midwest. I lived in the NYC region for 12 years. In neither place would those people have been stared at for more than just a lingering glance by a significant number of people. Here it was out and out staring.

I see nothing to stare at with these people. At all.

What you see as attempts to "look different" is really just people (musicians in this case, plus my husband) to be themselves.

I find attempts to "fit in" at all costs to be beyond stupid, quite frankly.
No offense, but the crazy hair just sticks out. I find it strange that you believe someone with a Mohawk should simply be able to just walk around without a comment. They are trying to stick out -- it is deliberate. I have nothing against it!

I have *never* tried to "fit in." Maybe that is why no one in the US ever paid attention to me? And could that be the same here? I didn't run around like ganster in Switzerland.
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