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13.11.2015, 11:34
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| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: | |  | | | I usually wear long trousers for a couple of weeks in January when its really cold - the rest of the time I opt for shorts - ideally denim cut-off ones - really short and ideally 2 sizes too small.  | | | | | Likewise.
Perhaps we're related?
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13.11.2015, 11:35
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| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: |  | | | Brrrr. Do you wear a jacket or coat around the house then? | | | | | Yes, a housecoat!
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13.11.2015, 11:36
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Our heating is thoroughly manual and a little bit labor-intensive - two large tile ovens, on the first floor and third floor - and so every winter we close up half of the house and heat the rest to around 16-18 degrees. Plenty warm for us, but it does mean I'm constantly explaining to strangers why my kids are in short sleeves at the (heated-to-25-degrees) playgroup, grocery store and everywhere else. Or why they are still running around on the playground in lightweight cardigans "when it is already November." (Even with outerwear, I find there's a strong cultural component here of dressing to suit the calendar not the thermometer.)
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| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, a housecoat! 
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| | Re: @Winter is comming- | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe a myth but if one is wearing warm winter clothes and is not wearing a hat then most heat loss will be through the head. | | | | | Actually I think you'll find that most heat loss is through the mouth and nose. Every breath you take (I'll be watching you) is heating up several litres of air from ambient to close to body temperature, much more than could radiate from an uncovered scalp in all but very windy conditions.
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13.11.2015, 12:25
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| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: |  | | | Brrrr. Do you wear a jacket or coat around the house then? | | | | | "If you are that cold, for goodness sakes put on a sweater!"
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13.11.2015, 12:32
| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: | |  | | | "If you are that cold, for goodness sakes put on a sweater!"
For best effect, use your 'mom/dad' voice...  | | | | | I don't think I actually own any such garment these days. Fifteen degrees is fine if you're doing something, but the idea of having to wear (extra) clothing for just sitting around watching TV or perusing EF is an alien concept to me, and has been ever since I could afford to live somewhere with a decent heating system.
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13.11.2015, 12:32
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| | Re: @Winter is comming- | Quote: |  | | | Actually I think you'll find that most heat loss is through the mouth and nose. Every breath you take (I'll be watching you) is heating up several litres of air from ambient to close to body temperature, much more than could radiate from an uncovered scalp in all but very windy conditions. | | | | | this heat exchanger is a pretty cool invention. For mountaineering it could save a lot of energy, improving safety and lowering the amount of food and fuel needed to just maintain body temp.
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13.11.2015, 14:18
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| | Re: @Winter is comming- | Quote: |  | | | Actually I think you'll find that most heat loss is through the mouth and nose. Every breath you take (I'll be watching you) is heating up several litres of air from ambient to close to body temperature, much more than could radiate from an uncovered scalp in all but very windy conditions. | | | | | How about wearing a Burka in the winter?
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13.11.2015, 14:39
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I can highly recommend onesies for those who get chilly. We have a whole zoo in our house. Often have a lion & tiger at the dinner table.
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13.11.2015, 14:48
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Sorry "little"tipsy when I wrote that in a rather direct way. Answer still stands though.
As far as going to the Amazon, bit of a difference when you can actually die .....here if your cold you just hop into a building, bus whatever etc and your good.
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13.11.2015, 15:03
| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: | |  | | | Our heating is thoroughly manual and a little bit labor-intensive - two large tile ovens, on the first floor and third floor - and so every winter we close up half of the house and heat the rest to around 16-18 degrees. Plenty warm for us, | | | | | Same here, half of our house is 'put to sleep' in winter, unless we have visitors of course. Fortunately the guest wing is separate from the rest which makes it much easier. We have oil central heating though, and solar panels for hot water, as well as a massive wood burner and an open fireplace.
Layers is indeed the key- silk is the very very best for the layer over skin- look at www.patra.com.
Sorry guys, but it makes no sense to me to overheat everywhere to be in shorts and t-shirts year round- costs a fortune, but more importantly, ecologically rubbish. Give me cold any day compared to un-natural overheating! We only heat bedrooms if temps there fall below 17- rest of the house we keep at 18 to 20ish in winter- and put on another layer if it gets cold.
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13.11.2015, 18:32
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| | Re: Preparing for winter | Quote: | |  | | | ...
You may not lose "more" through your head, but it is certainly one of the most uncomfortable places to be cold.. | | | | | Try going barefoot.
The exact myth is that we lose most of our heat via our head, which is not true. If everything else is covered, the head will be the major source of heat loss but that same could be said of, e.g. your feet if they're the only part of you not covered. There is nothing special about keeping your head covered.
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13.11.2015, 19:44
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| | Re: Winter is comming- | Quote: |  | | | Same here, half of our house is 'put to sleep' in winter, unless we have visitors of course. Fortunately the guest wing is separate from the rest which makes it much easier. We have oil central heating though, and solar panels for hot water, as well as a massive wood burner and an open fireplace.
Layers is indeed the key- silk is the very very best for the layer over skin- look at www.patra.com.
Sorry guys, but it makes no sense to me to overheat everywhere to be in shorts and t-shirts year round- costs a fortune, but more importantly, ecologically rubbish. Give me cold any day compared to un-natural overheating! We only heat bedrooms if temps there fall below 17- rest of the house we keep at 18 to 20ish in winter- and put on another layer if it gets cold. | | | | | Agreed. Wear some socks and snuggle up with a blanket. If my houseplants of tropical origin are still happy with 15 degrees, so am I. I still pay through the nose for heating oil, however, as it's based on a percentage of the whole building's oil consumption. Basically, I pay a sizable % of my neighbors' true heating costs. I envy those of you who don't have to put up with such nonsense.
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13.11.2015, 21:34
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Layers aren't working for me. The change in temps (outdoor to in) is too frequent, sudden and dramatic, and I find it a pain to be de-layering, carrying layers around after their removal, and re-layering before I go out again.
So it's summer clothes + tights under my full length parka during the week, and some warmer pants and things for weekend adventures.
Though it is only November...
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13.11.2015, 22:47
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Here's a photo of me from last winter  | | | | | Dad? I'm sure that bedspread's identical to one my mother had back in the late sixties.
Otherwise, my OH has curtains made from a very similar fabric in his digs in Crewe... sadly that picture looks nothing like him, even if I squint.
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13.11.2015, 22:56
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I have always been a "cold" person but find our apartment heating excessive. It doesn't matter if it is -16 outside or +16 the temp was always 22C.
This year we had a new boiler fitted and now the temp is always 24C - so I am always opening windows and my OH hates the heat
The funny thing is that we never ever put the heating on!!
I think it is because some of the pipes go under the floor - always summer clothes worn in my flat.
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