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Zürich spring festival ( Sechseläuten )

Im new to zurich and have been told about these celebrations that will be on monday 16th april,does anybody know what time the parades start.Also which areas things are going on.Does it also mean that shops will be closed.I would appreciate any info that anybody can give me.
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Sechseläuten, Zurich spring festival with parades and burning of the «Böögg»

Every year, the guilds of Zürich and the general public celebrate their traditional spring festival: the Sechseläuten. The celebrations start on Sunday with a colourful children's procession. This is followed by the main festival on Monday: People in historical guild costumes, 500 horses, 30 marching bands, together with 50 carriages and coaches, parade through the city centre to Sechseläuten-Platz on Lake Zürich. There, at 6 p.m. a pile of wood, on which the 'Böögg' – a symbolic snowman – sits enthroned, is set on fire. The quicker his head catches fire and explodes, the finer the summer should be.
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Re: Zürich spring festival ( Sechseläuten )

"should be" was the right definition for the summer 2011, the "böögg" exploded
in record time of around 11 mins, the summer last year wasn't a record one, only average.......
Keep your fingers crossed for this year........
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Re: [ZH] The Annual Sechseläuten thread [was Men in tights]

So, does anyone know the answers to my questions? I asked these last year...
What are the unwritten "rules" of the event. For example:
- all along the procession you see women in the crowd giving flowers to the marching men. Does it work both ways? For example, can guys in the crowd give flowers to (cute) girls marching past?
- is there a locked-down list of the guilds that can actually participate in the parade? If the national ancient brotherhood of computer geeks started a guild in Zurich, would they be allowed to participate? There seems to be flexibility about inviting groups from other towns to participate...
- why are there no gügga music bands? Are they banned from participating?
- who are the horsemen that dress up in arab costume and gallop around the burning Böögg?
- why are women's guilds not allowed to participate?
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So, does anyone know the answers to my questions? I asked these last year...
What are the unwritten "rules" of the event. For example:
- all along the procession you see women in the crowd giving flowers to the marching men. Does it work both ways? For example, can guys in the crowd give flowers to (cute) girls marching past?
- is there a locked-down list of the guilds that can actually participate in the parade? If the national ancient brotherhood of computer geeks started a guild in Zurich, would they be allowed to participate? There seems to be flexibility about inviting groups from other towns to participate...
- why are there no gügga music bands? Are they banned from participating?
- who are the horsemen that dress up in arab costume and gallop around the burning Böögg?
- why are women's guilds not allowed to participate?
Because it's an exclusive event for the masonic closed Guilds and not plebs like women, foreigners, the sane etc, although I did see a black guy on a horse one year. I wonder whose daughter he married.

It has to be the most cringe worthy event in Zurich. Hope it pours
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So, does anyone know the answers to my questions? I asked these last year...
What are the unwritten "rules" of the event. For example:
- all along the procession you see women in the crowd giving flowers to the marching men. Does it work both ways? For example, can guys in the crowd give flowers to (cute) girls marching past?
- is there a locked-down list of the guilds that can actually participate in the parade? If the national ancient brotherhood of computer geeks started a guild in Zurich, would they be allowed to participate? There seems to be flexibility about inviting groups from other towns to participate...
- why are there no gügga music bands? Are they banned from participating?
- who are the horsemen that dress up in arab costume and gallop around the burning Böögg?
- why are women's guilds not allowed to participate?
Have you read anything about Sächsilüüte before posting here? Ever heard of Google

I will try to help you but please read up on that as the infornation can surely be found....
  • all along the procession you see women in the crowd giving flowers to the marching men. Does it work both ways? For example, can guys in the crowd give flowers to (cute) girls marching past? The girls and women give flowers to the men they know. It maybe could be done the other way around as well but the idea is that the women usually get flowers by the men they give flowers to on that day (fathers, brothers, friends, partners etc. you get the idea)
  • is there a locked-down list of the guilds that can actually participate in the parade? If the national ancient brotherhood of computer geeks started a guild in Zurich, would they be allowed to participate? There seems to be flexibility about inviting groups from other towns to participate... The guilds show acienct trade and crafts. Therefore no new guilds are allowed. There are the ones that represent a trade or craft and then there are the "Quartieszünfte" that represent the different parts of Zurich (Kreise) like Wiedikon, Hottingen, Höngg etc. Each year another canton of Switzerland is "Gastkanton" and guilds from that canton as well as politicians etc from that area are invited.
  • why are there no gügga music bands? Are they banned from participating? The Zünfte have their own bands and other Marschmusiken are invited. Guggen is only for Fasnacht and even though Sächsilüüte is sometimes called Bonzenfasnacht (i.e. Fasnacht for the upper class) Guggen are not part of that tradition.
  • who are the horsemen that dress up in arab costume and gallop around the burning Böögg? As explained above the guilds represent ancient trades and craftmen. The ones that you refer to are called Kämbel and represent the tradesmen. As many of the spices used to come from the Middle East they are "dressed up" as Arab men. But not only men from the Kämbel guilde ride around the Bögg also the guild Weggen and Wiedikon have a big horse groupe. One of the three is at the beginning, one in the middle and one at the end of the Umzug.
  • why are women's guilds not allowed to participate? Women are not allowed to participate because men don't want them to participate that the short answer. Of course there is a huge debate about that but basically the reason is that the men want to be alone in the evening in the Zunftstuben so that they can talk loudly about stupid things and drink a lot many wouldn't dare to behave the same if their wives or other women would be there as well....
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Sechseläuten

Just saw a female streaker at the Sechseläuten umzug!
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Re: [ZH] The Annual Sechseläuten thread [was Men in tights]

The burning of the Black Sheep Böögg came in at 12:08, for those who care
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The burning of the Black Sheep Böögg came in at 12:08, for those who care
Thanks! I was just about to ask that. There seemed to be confusion at about 9:20 when his head fell off, but obviously the massive explosion was the one to stop the clock.

Not a bad time...
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This summer should be “quite good” – if an exploding snowman is to be believed.

The Böögg – 3.4 meters tall and weighing 80 kilos - looks like a giant snowman perched on the top of a huge bonfire. His head is stuffed with fireworks. The fire is lit when the church clock strikes six; the quicker the Böögg’s head explodes, the warmer the summer is supposed to be.

However, in 2007 the national weather service, MeteoSwiss, analysed 50 years of data and found the Böögg's record less than impressive, finding a correlation "close to zero".

Finance Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf, this year’s Swiss president, was the guest of honour of the Fraumünster Society, a women’s group which is not invited to take part in the official parade of the guilds, but has to set out 45 minutes earlier.

The official guests included the Lord Mayor of the City of London, David Wootton.
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Re: [ZH] The Annual Sechseläuten thread [was Men in tights]

I'm with Uncle Max on this one. Pointless event, no one gives a rat's ass about it and whether the straw icon lasts longer than a male pornstar or if it's napalmed in 2 seconds, summer, will, I believe, start sometime in June.

For those employed in downtown ZH, you get half a day off, which in a protestant canton is a rarity, so enjoy your extra 4 hours of office freedom.
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Sechseläuten 2012

Any ideas how fast the Böögg burnt this year. I hope we have a nice long summer this year
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Any ideas how fast the Böögg burnt this year. I hope we have a nice long summer this year
Accoring to Blick 12min.

http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/zue...id1847491.html
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Which should give you an idea of the ridiculousness of this event.
A massive back slapping session for the rich & connected, conducted in front of the proles.

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I'm with Uncle Max on this one. Pointless event, no one gives a rat's ass about it and whether the straw icon lasts longer than a male pornstar or if it's napalmed in 2 seconds, summer, will, I believe, start sometime in June.

For those employed in downtown ZH, you get half a day off, which in a protestant canton is a rarity, so enjoy your extra 4 hours of office freedom.
Nobody takes the point how long that Böögg burnt seriously. The event does not need a "point" as it IS the point itself, a nice event with a bit folklore, a bit of a show, and the "national anthem of Zürich" played in endless repetition. And it not only is in downtown but in all of the City of Zürich, that business is closed in the afternoon, and so many people enjoy the free afternoon. In the cargo-terminal of Zürich-Airport, even when the place is on 8302-Kloten-territory, it is 8058, and so, most companies there, at least in the past, closed in early afternoon on both Sechseläuten and Knabenschiessen.

While astronomically, "summer" starts in late June (22nd approx), to me, summer starts on 1st June and ends in mid September to give way to autumn, which in my mind lasts until 30th November. This is an absolutely personal and totally unscientific interpretation
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Which should give you an idea of the ridiculousness of this event.
A massive back slapping session for the rich & connected, conducted in front of the proles.

I don't know how the City of London Lord Mayor conducts business, but when seeing an interview with him thought him to be a nice gentleman. I do not see anything ridiculous

You of course can describe almost any entertainment event in the world as ridiculous if you want, but if judging so harshly realize that it may be yourself who may become ridiculous by taking non-serious things so seriously.

AND please also realize that it was a very nice gesture of that "chief" of a real World Metropolis to attend a festivity in Zürich. Good P.R. for London and good for inbound-tourism into London !

And he also did a bit of home politics by saying that he was astonished to see so many horses in Zürich, more than in his native much larger London. He possibly wants to have more horses at festivities etc in London and now will argue that ""when those chaps in Zürich can cope with so many more horses we for sure can do as well".

The relationship between London and Zürich has been close in business and culture for many decades, so that the man simply worked on this basis
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Blimey Wolli, I swear you're dryer than the Atacama desert sometimes
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Because it's an exclusive event for the masonic closed Guilds and not plebs like women, foreigners, the sane etc, although I did see a black guy on a horse one year. I wonder whose daughter he married.

It has to be the most cringe worthy event in Zurich. Hope it pours
You mean like fasnacht?
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Nobody takes the point how long that Böögg burnt seriously. The event does not need a "point" as it IS the point itself, a nice event with a bit folklore, a bit of a show, and the "national anthem of Zürich" played in endless repetition. ...
Oh the burning of the Black SheepBöögg is of course harmless - it is harmless, right? It didn't replace the witch / Jew burning of Medieval times in any way? - it's the Exclusivity of the event which is at odds with what most people would consider a festival. It doesn't belong to the people.

Let's not forget those on temp contracts / hourly wages who lost out as a consequence of rich white guys dressed in frocks lording it over the proles. Kinda typifies a lot: don't scratch the veneer of civilisation; just take photos and swallow the tourist propaganda.

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Oh the burning of the Black SheepBöögg is of course harmless - it is harmless, right? It didn't replace the witch / Jew burning of Medieval times in any way? - it's the Exclusivity of the event which is at odds with what most people would consider a festival. It doesn't belong to the people.

Let's not forget those on temp contracts / hourly wages who lost out as a consequence of rich white guys dressed in frocks lording it over the proles. Kinda typifies a lot: don't scratch the veneer of civilisation; just take photos and swallow the tourist propaganda.

/agit perspective
While the guilds and membership of them is exclusive, the Sechseläuten is not. Outdated maybe, but rather less than those uncountable "Volksmusik" broadcasts on TV
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