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Old 15.03.2009, 13:25
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Swiss Watches

While in Zurich I'd like to buy a nice swiss watch that will hopefully last me a long time.

Would anyone have any recommendations on the best brands, value for money, any sites that will help compare different brands or stores, or maybe best area/street to shop?

What would people think is the best brand (I know this is a personal preference thing, but like to hear opinions) - looking at something probably around the 1000-2000chf mark, if I can buy the same watch on eBay or in other countries for cheaper then I prob wouldnt buy it here however.

Sorry if this is covered in another thread, couldnt locate.

Thanks for any input!

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Possibly a tin of worms there as at these prices it's largely subjective but I'd go for Omega, have a read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwatch

Nasa didn't have time to comission suppliers to provide a watch for them so they sent someone into town to buy several quality watches to test.

"The Speedmaster passed NASA's numerous tests, which included exposure to extreme temperatures, vacuum, intense humidity, corrosion, shock, acceleration, pressure, vibration and noise, whereas the Rolex, Breitling, Bulova, Longines and Heuer, notably, all failed."

OK it's going back a bit but to me it speaks volumes for the quality of the Omega when off-the-shelf it was that good.

Btw the Moonwatch isn't an ideal choice as it's got a plastic crystal that scratches easily and a manual wind, but there are plenty of others with mineral crystals and automatic winding.
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Re: Swiss Watches

Hi there,

Please check out http://www.timeofswitzerland.com/

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While in Zurich I'd like to buy a nice swiss watch that will hopefully last me a long time.

Would anyone have any recommendations on the best brands, value for money, any sites that will help compare different brands or stores, or maybe best area/street to shop?

What would people think is the best brand (I know this is a personal preference thing, but like to hear opinions) - looking at something probably around the 1000-2000chf mark, if I can buy the same watch on eBay or in other countries for cheaper then I prob wouldnt buy it here however.

Sorry if this is covered in another thread, couldnt locate.

Thanks for any input!

Cheers,
Dan.
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- what style do you prefer
- how much of that budget do you want to spend on a mechanical movement (bearing in mind any quartz movement will be more accurate) vs on the quality of the external parts (case, dial, glass and bracelet)

To be honest at that budget Id go quartz. Sorry to say you are not going to impress a watch snob anyway unless you spend upwards of 5-10k, so may as well fool the rest of the world with the best externals possible.

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Re: Swiss Watches

Personally, I (female ) love Rado. Exclusive design, scratch resistant high-tech materials and super skin-friendly. I have several watches, but the Rado is my all-time favourite, and not even the most expensive. However, I think it's one of those brands that you either love or hate because of the design. I'm pretty sure they have some models within your price range.

see www.rado.com
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Re: Swiss Watches

Within that price range you can have a nice watch from a little factory settled in Geneva, Aquanautic.

In Zurich you fin that brand at Airbijoux, a store located besides the Baur-au-Lac hotel, at the beginning of Bahnhofstrasse.

Here is their website: www.aquanautic.com

Baume&Mercier has also an interesting choice, as well as Longines.

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any idea where i can get the cheapest deals for watches in switzerland ? is there any watch price comparison website here ?

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Re: Swiss Watches

When I went out looking for a "premiere" Swiss watch last year I found every showroom in Switzerland had exactly the same price. The cheapest prices were found at the respective airports duty free. Quite honestly you can purchase these watches cheaper duty free in the main Asian airports and I took a big risk and bought mine through amazon.com in the States for 67% of the Swiss price. It ended up being quite genuine but with no worldwide warranty (just the dealers). Big risk here as you could end up with a fake! Buy in Switzerland for the absolute genuine article with proper warranty, excellent service but premium price. HTH
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Re: Swiss Watches

Don't know much about watches. But noticed the recent ads about Louis Erard. And there are not that expensive.
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Old 09.05.2009, 19:21
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Re: Swiss Watches

It really depends on what you want in terms of style, substance, heritage etc. Might also be worth buying used to get a real classic. Also do you want battery powered or a certified chronometer?

Have a look at this dedicated watch forum.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/
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Re: Swiss Watches

Hi there, just thought I'd give my input on this topic. Sorry if you've already made the purchase, but I guess you're not the first person to come to Switzerland and think its a good time to get a watch. You're probably right, so hopefully this will benefit someone thinking the same if you have.

I assume you are going to buy something you plan to keep on your arm for at least 10 years, so you should at least consider the following extravagant/sensible steps towards what may be a considerable purchase. Funnily enough, some of them not that different to advice I got about getting a tattoo:

Decide what is the most you can afford and be prepared to spend it all. 10 years buddy. Do you really want to be spending the last 8 of those thinking "if I'm honest, I should have the got the model I really liked that in all fairness I could afford". This is a marriage where you don't get the option of a mistress if you don't fancy the bride anymore.

Go straight to a jewellers and waste their time. Get them to show you the ones you have your eye on and several others they think may take your fancy. There may some less-publicised top brand like IWC that makes one you've never seen before that takes your fancy. You'll get kudos for those watches too from the people who matter if its a bit of street cred you're after. Try them all on and see which suits your wrist. Have you seen a woman wearing a man's Rolex? Way too big. Good in theory, bad in practise. I was shocked how bad my 'magazine' second favourite choice looked on my arm. I'd have to have bought a yacht so it didn't look out of place. Take your time, decide which you like the most and walk out mumbling "I need to time to think about it, thanks for the complimentary champagne". I can think of worse ways to waste an hour.

Get whichever mate is going to Asia next to buy you a fake or similar version to your final choice... or... Put a picture of it somewhere you'll see it every day - fridge door, back of remote control, if you're single put it in a picture frame on your desk identical to the one your work colleague keeps his family photo in, etc. Have a quick look at the watches in the shop window as a reminder now and then; if you're going to get cold feet, now's the time. Give it 6 months and decide if you're still 'in love'.

Once you're sure its 'you', make sure you get it from a 100% genuine dealer for the price its worth. A friend got one from a swiss mate who had a spanish mate who got them cheap. You know the story. They may as well have had Del Boy Trotter running the UK operations from Peckham. I spotted a small detail which to me said it was good condition second hand or fake, but didn't have the heart to tell him and wreck half a dozen friendships. If something's too good to be true, it often is.

I have also heard of 1 person going out of their way to find the cheapest place (Dubai) and choose it as their holiday destination that year, only to have to pay enough import taxes to have made it the same price as a shop 2 miles from their front door. The catch being that he ended up spending a total he couldn't afford. Look into extra taxes you may have to pay at the Swiss Airports, maybe its the same. On that note, exchange rates come into the equation also if you travel around a bit.

Don't go for a Rolex. As much as I love mine, and still think I made the right choice, it gains 3 minutes a week. ie: relying purely on the watch, Monday morning next week I'll be 3 minutes early for work and if I don't reset it now and again, in a month I'll be 15 minutes early. Not the biggest tragedy, but I know 2 guys who lose over 30 minutes a week on theirs and Rolex just can't fix the problem. As timepieces they're as reliable as a London bus.

Get a cheap watch (Swatch aren't bad at all) to wear on weekends. I accidentally hit mine square onto a table corner (not a scratch) when I was drunk and almost had a heart attack.

On a CHF 2000 budget i would go for a second hand Omega and I agree that Rado make some nice watches and worth a look at.
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Old 10.05.2009, 11:18
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Re: Swiss Watches

I think I've said this before, the low £ makes watch shopping in the UK very attractive. I found an Ebay seller with a bricks and mortar shop in the Birmingham Jewellery sector who was able to offer discounts of upto 30% on the lowest price I had seen in Switzerland. And its a lot closer than the US and Far East Asia if things go wrong.
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Re: Swiss Watches

I got an inexpensive Tag Link watch 3 years ago because the metal band has a double lock, making it virtually impossible to open accidently. I lost my last watch sledding

I can't see the point of paying CHF 7k plus for a watch. Many friends have such watches that they need to remove when showering, swimming and doing sports. Their watches are constantly in for service when they don't keep time too.

My Russian best friend came to the Omega dealer in Zurich Bahnhofstrasse to buy her uncle his dream watch. He has wanted one for years, but couldn't be 100% sure he was getting the real thing. There are so many fakes and stolen watches about or with the serial number removed.
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Re: Swiss Watches

To be honest, I'd rather go cheaper or save up for a REAL Swiss watch, the kind you will give to your kids, who will pass it on to their grandkids. Yes, I've seen those examples. My flight instructor had a Breitling from god knows when and even the company wanted to buy it back for their museum. However it was from his gramps and he said no.

For 2000 you can barely begin to get mechanical watches from known brands. The obscure swiss brands are even more worthless, they trade on their location and can be ignored, might as well go for a really good Jap watch. I had a Citizen "Blue Angels" and it was a very smart looking watch.
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Possibly a tin of worms there as at these prices it's largely subjective but I'd go for Omega, have a read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwatch

Nasa didn't have time to comission suppliers to provide a watch for them so they sent someone into town to buy several quality watches to test.

"The Speedmaster passed NASA's numerous tests, which included exposure to extreme temperatures, vacuum, intense humidity, corrosion, shock, acceleration, pressure, vibration and noise, whereas the Rolex, Breitling, Bulova, Longines and Heuer, notably, all failed."

OK it's going back a bit but to me it speaks volumes for the quality of the Omega when off-the-shelf it was that good.

Btw the Moonwatch isn't an ideal choice as it's got a plastic crystal that scratches easily and a manual wind, but there are plenty of others with mineral crystals and automatic winding.
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To be honest, I'd rather go cheaper or save up for a REAL Swiss watch, the kind you will give to your kids, who will pass it on to their grandkids. Yes, I've seen those examples.
Good recommendation for a "generational investment". We've one of "those" watches in our family that unfortunately will never grace my wrist on those rare occasions that it is worn ('cause my bro got it, ).

It is not only cherished because of its' sentimental value but also (let's face it) it's worth, ahem, a certain amount.
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Re: Swiss Watches

I am a Bell & Ross fan and had a friend in the watch business purchase it for me in Austria and then perform the correct Swiss customs import procedure and saved a four digit CHF figure for exactly the same product available in this country. Official product, boxed, certificate, warranty etc. Someone I know in the USA makes his money selling Swiss watches and they are (generally speaking) cheaper than you'll find here.
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Re: Swiss Watches

i have several omegas , including moonwatch. also have seiko for everyday wear , but the omegas are inexpensive ( in comparison) and excellent aftersales service.

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... if I can buy the same watch on eBay or in other countries for cheaper then I prob wouldnt buy it here however...
Ok then, buy it in Hong Kong!!! The price their is massively lower than here. Should anybody say that you wouldn't get the "real thing" there - forget it, this it simply not true.
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at something probably around the 1000-2000chf mark


Sorry for digging this up. I find it interesting how the watch market has been developping over the last few years. Omega, which was suggested in this thread, has easily doubled in price since this was written. While you could get a Speedmaster Pro (moon watch) for around 2000-2500 Fr. a few years back, they now run at 4100 Fr. It's almost impossible to find anything Omega below 3000 Fr. now. You can sell your 25 year old, used Speedy Pro at about 500-1000 Fr. over what you paid for it initially.


It seems that Swatch Group has been doing some major re-shuffling of their model and brand ranges.


With Hamilton having risen in popularitity quite dramatically over the last few years (can't blame them - I love their current range, I already own four Hammies :-), there seemed to have a bit of a crisis in terms of where the other brands should be positioned. Hamilton has now taken the middle-to-upper market position, with watches typically running from 1000 - 2000 Fr. (with a few cheaper and a few more expensive exceptions). That's where the average Omega used to be until the late nineties, early noughties, when they started pushing even the mid-tier Omegas into the luxury segment. Tissot, which used to occupy what is now Hamiltons "territory" seems to have been degraded to just above Swatch levels - Tissot watches now run between 300 and 900 Fr. on average.



With the rise of the Hamilton brand, Omega has also surrendered their brick-and-mortar turf to it - most places (except for prime-location, luxury shops) that used to sell and service Omegas are now Hamilton dealerships and have stopped selling Omega.

to also come back to the OP's question about optimal bang-for-the-buck in Swiss watches today: Tissot makes some very decent watches if you're into Quartz models. They also have a few automatic models that are quite nice.


Hamilton is the automatic brand with the best value, if you ask me - almost their entire range is autos and they use some excellent movements and even improve on some of the most widely use workhorses of the industry (like the H-30 which is based on the ETA 2824 but has a larger main spring, resulting in a power reserve of up to 80 hours - used in the Pan Europ auto, or the H-31 which is based on the Valjoux 7750, which also ticks in some IWC and Panerai watches and is considerd to be one of the most robust chrono movements, albeit also one of the loudest ones).
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