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Old 12.08.2009, 11:34
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SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

On Saturday last I took my bike from Zürich to Nyon on the train for the Nyon triathlon on Sunday. I have a GA, so on the ticketmachine I bought the Velo-selbstverlad Tageskarte ermässigt.

In one of the carriages marked for bikes, I hung the bike from the racks-seemed simple enough so far. When the ticket inspector came, I gave him my GA and the Velo-selbstverlad ticket and pointed out my bike. He asked me where was my reservation ticket- apparently you have to also book the rack that you hang your bike from? It was a genuine mistake on my part, in fairness to him, he said it was no problem, but to make sure to buy one next time.

So when I buy the Velo-selbstverlad ticket, I also have to buy a reservation ticket for the train? Can I buy this on the machines as well? Is the Velo-selbstverlad ticket any use without an accompanying reservation ticket?

And one final question- the Velo-selbstverlad ticket that I bought for the mainline train, can I also bring the bike on the trams in Zürich city, or do I have to buy a separate ticket for this? By the time I got back to Zürich on Sunday evening, my legs were in no condition to cycle anywhere...

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Old 12.08.2009, 11:50
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Re: SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

Taken from the SBB website http://mct.sbb.ch/mct/en/reisemarkt/...-schweiz.htm?=

- During the bike-season from 21. march till 31. october reservations are compulsory for accompanied bikes on Intercity tiliting trains (train-category ICN).
- Innerhalb der Schweiz ist auf den von Cisalpino zugemieteten ICN-Zügen auch der Veloverlad möglich (Reservationsobligatorium). // On ICN trains rented by Cisalpino within Switzerland the transport of your bike is possible (booking required!)

I never heard about the reservation requirement before, but then it has been a while since I used a bycicle...
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Re: SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

Let me elaborate a little more. For most trains in Switzeland, you don't need a reservation for a bike. However, for the ICN (white, tilting) trains you do. This costs an additional 5 CHF, and must be made at least 30 minutes prior to departure (but sometimes they will let you get away with doing less). You can either go to the ticket counter or phone the SBB to make the reservation, but if you do it by phone then you still need to pay for it and pick it up at the ticket counter - yes, this is very annoying!

The best solution is to avoid these trains whenever possible. To get from Zurich to Nyon, you could have taken an IC train direct to Lausanne (which travels on the line via Bern) and then taken any train to Nyon, and you then would not have needed a reservation for the bike, just the regular bike ticket. Furthermore, these ICN trains between Geneva or Lausanne and Basel or Zurich/St Gallen alternate their origin and destination every hour. They make the switching between train simple by having the two trains line-up side-by-side in Biel / Bienne, but if you need to change from one ICN to another then you need to pay the 5 CHF reservation fee twice - this is even more annoying. On the SBB website, when you search for different train time options, there will be symbols next to the train if a bike reservation is needed. As mentioned above, during the colder months, no reservations are needed on the ICN trains.

Another way to avoid this hassle is to use a bike bag. You can get one for about 80 CHF, they fold up pretty small and only weigh about 1 kg. You then don't need a ticket for the bike or a reservation, but you can still store the bike in the normal bike compartments of the train (although if someone comes along with a bike which they have paid for then you must make room for them). See the thread Taking a bike on the train for free.
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Old 14.08.2009, 11:27
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Re: SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

According to the VBZ website, as long as your bike's got a valid ticket then you're ok taking it in the trams and buses as long as there's space. I'm not too familiar about the ticket system, but if you're travelling by train then presumably you'll have a day ticket for the bike anyway. I've not witnessed it myself, but apparently some people can be a bit funny about people taking bikes on trams and buses so if you're travelling at a busy time and the tram's fairly full it's maybe best avoided.
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Re: SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

Like all regular tickets, I don't think that the bicycle pass from SBB are valid on the VBZ network.
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Re: SBB Velo-Selbstverlad ticket

now that we're in a mobile age, anyone have an idea how to make a bike reservation on an ICN train using the mobile app. is this the same as the seat reservation (also 5chfs)?
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