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Old 29.10.2011, 14:16
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And I wonder if there are Internet forums in Singapore where expats are free to engage in Singapore bashing...
Sags, I dont trawl those forums but this seems to be the main website for expats in SG

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/
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Old 29.10.2011, 14:20
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

Well, to my knowledge there is no English Forum in Singapore so he'll just have to be frustrated at all the rules and regulations on his own. Because even as a Swiss, I was impressed at how strict the government is. And I missed chewing gum.
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Old 29.10.2011, 15:59
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And I missed chewing gum.
Just to quell a common misconception: chewing gum isn't illegal, it's just illegal to sell it there. You can by it elsewhere and import it. Personally, I find it cool to see streets and outdoor furniture not covered in old gum.
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Old 29.10.2011, 16:15
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

But you have to register to get your gum and importing it is illegal too...
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Singapore: chewing gum legalised

By Sarah Getty, Metro
Last updated at 13:12 04 January 2008

It was banned for 12 years for fouling streets, buildings, buses and subway trains. Now chewing gum can again be bought legally in ultra-tidy Singapore - but only in chemists, by registered users.
Potential buyers first have to submit their names and ID card numbers. Otherwise chemists who sell it could be jailed for up to two years and fined £1,600. The south-east Asian city-state, known for its immaculate streets and tight social controls, banned the manufacture, import and sale of chewing gum in 1992 after the country's founding father, Lee Kuan Yew, complained about it.
Although Mr Lee, 80, stepped down as prime minister in 1990, he still wields considerable influence as 'senior minister'.
However, the ban became an issue in Singapore's free trade talks with Washington when Representative Philip Crane of Illinois - home of chewing gum giant Wrigley - called for it to be lifted. In a bid to shake off its 'nanny state' image, Singapore compromised, allowing only 'therapeutic' gum to be sold.
Nineteen 'medicinal' and 'dental' types are now on chemists' shelves, including Wrigley's Orbit, claimed to be good for teeth, and anti-smoking Nicorette.
But some Singaporeans seem unimpressed. 'It's ridiculous it is easier for 16-year-olds to visit prostitutes than to get chewing gum here,' said student Fayen Wong, 22. Prostitution is legal in parts of Singapore - and no registration is required.
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Old 29.10.2011, 17:27
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But you have to register to get your gum and importing it is illegal too...
Actually, they arent that anal if its for personal consumption. Its a myth that you cant chew gum in Singers. Its just illegal to sell unless authorised like chemists you've stated above.

I usually have a few packs of gum when I come back from Malaysia and at customs when asked if I have anything to declare, I show them my gum and get waved on.

They are stricter about tobacco and taxing anything above an open pack - and er, pirated *coughs* DVDs.
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It is a little amusing how our "friend" dug up a thread from two years ago on the arrogance of expats to announce his reasons for leaving.

Welcome to the Internet, where you can always find some archived post to get your goat.
Regardless of who has left or not, some basic considerations

A) who/what is an expat ? I think "expat" describes somebody of a national origin different from the one of his/her residence
B) to be elsewhere and starting complaining within 5 days may be a bit speedy, but later on, criticism not only is alright but is required
C) arrogance ? this always is a factor of style and attitude
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Old 29.10.2011, 19:24
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I've said it before, in Shanghai (despite the politics)
Strange that you compare democratic Switzerland's rules to Gestapo control, but are quite happy to go and live and work in a police state of your own free will, and where you will be contributing economically through your taxes to the permanent repression of the political aspirations of the local inhabitants.

When I lived in South Africa, we didn't think much of the foreigners who came there and became bigger fans of apartheid than any typical Afrikaner, can you understand why?
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Old 29.10.2011, 19:34
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Strange that you compare democratic Switzerland's rules to Gestapo control, but are quite happy to go and live and work in a police state of your own free will, and where you will be contributing economically through your taxes to the permanent repression of the political aspirations of the local inhabitants.

When I lived in South Africa, we didn't think much of the foreigners who came there and became bigger fans of apartheid than any typical Afrikaner, can you understand why?
His comments about "freedom" are so surreal it really is beyond comment.
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Old 29.10.2011, 19:35
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Sags, I dont trawl those forums but this seems to be the main website for expats in SG

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/
My grandfather, to exercise his English, his French and his Italian, went up into the mountain and met holiday-makers from GB/IR/F/IT there. I now see that EF is popular also among native Spanish-speakers and French-speakers, the E-expats and the the resident CH-folks apparently are not that bad

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QUOTE=summerrain;1391618]Actually, they arent that anal if its for personal consumption. Its a myth that you cant chew gum in Singers. Its just illegal to sell unless authorised like chemists you've stated above.

I usually have a few packs of gum when I come back from Malaysia and at customs when asked if I have anything to declare, I show them my gum and get waved on.

They are stricter about tobacco and taxing anything above an open pack - and er, pirated *coughs* DVDs. [/QUOTE]

Reminds me of Muscat and Dubai I, it must have been 1990, in Budapest, spent the rest of my Hungarian money I could not REconvert in various alchoholica. And did not consume it in Athens or Cairo and arrived with all the stuff in Muscat. I in detail informed that not-at-at-all-uninformed Omani customs officials about both the stuff and about Budapest (sure that Hungary got at least half a dozen Arab tourists in the 90ies ) and I signed a paper that I neither would consume nor sell the stuff in the Sultanate of Oman. On arrival in Dubai, the customs officials broke out in laughters when I declared my readiness to sign similar papers but told me that I by my law there was not to sell anything locally.

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His comments about "freedom" are so surreal it really is beyond comment.
What is "freedom" ? I on holidays in the "Riviera della Versiglia" north of Viareggio loved to be fully accepted as a local in every way. I loved to get accepted as a local in places like Tunis and Alexandria and Beirut even if having to accept Ramadan rules in Tunis for half an hour. In many places you as a foreigner have some privileges but mostly willl be subject to higher prices. Back to the Toscana. I always got tickets for the "locals-tariffs" but my brother, paying the "foreigners-tariffs" got the priivilige seats
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

Whatever "freedom" is, what it isn't is anything related to your post, Wolli
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Whatever "freedom" is, what it isn't is anything related to your post, Wolli
whatever it is was or is, I always liked it to pay only some 60% of what my bother had to pay
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

Arrogance? Surely you mean ignorance? One leads to the other, doesn't it??
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

What an interesting question...
And are all the swiss intolerant svp, ostracizing any king of integration?
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Re: Are expats arrogant barstewards?

We're not arrogant.

We're just better than everybody else
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What an interesting question...
And are all the swiss intolerant svp, ostracizing any king of integration?
Good question. The proof is in the pudding from last weeks/week before elections.
The SVP probably didn't set up the free language lessons, with baby sitting arranged for mums.
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