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Old 14.09.2009, 11:01
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Re: Digitec versus Branded pc

This is how it works for everyone. Just make sure where you buy it ensures your SKU key is for the language you wish to have!!!
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...?PageID=565296
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Old 14.09.2009, 11:27
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This is how it works for everyone. Just make sure where you buy it ensures your SKU key is for the language you wish to have!!!
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...?PageID=565296

Yeah but if I buy Vista 64bit business English version then the included Windows 7 upgrade voucher would be for English too ....no? I have some credit left with an online shop hence I want to buy from them but the text I had quoted was confusing in comparison to some other online shops that state clearly something like this-

Microsoft Windows Vista Business, inkl. Windows 7 Voucher, 64Bit, OEM, englisch (66J-08311)
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Old 14.09.2009, 11:47
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Yeah but if I buy Vista 64bit business English version then the included Windows 7 upgrade voucher would be for English too ....no? I have some credit left with an online shop hence I want to buy from them but the text I had quoted was confusing in comparison to some other online shops that state clearly something like this-

Microsoft Windows Vista Business, inkl. Windows 7 Voucher, 64Bit, OEM, englisch (66J-08311)
Honestly? Not necessarily in Switzerland. most of the OEM's come from Ireland and the upgrade license may get locked to the country it is sold in. Contact them before buying and have the person confirm it, not simply say, yeh it's OK. If they can't confirm, you may have a problem to match the SKU to an English OS.
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I would consider the full version instead, if you take the oem version I think you must to buy windows again when you upgrade your computer.
Pro/Business version costs....

OEM = CHF 170
Retail= CHF 380

Retail is more than twice the price. Old machine becomes internet machine so OS is still needed on it. For the new machine you buy another OEM version I have changed parts including OS HD and had no problem re-activating the OS.
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Pro/Business version costs....

OEM = CHF 170
Retail= CHF 380
B@stardz....
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B@stardz....
Yes, but you get free telephone support from the genuine Microsoft support in India!!!!

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You can't build a Mac, you can only get them pre-built. If a Mac is what you're looking for i'd go check the nearest Apple store.

For PC I would reccomendusing the Upgrade-Kit Core i7 from digitec as a base:

Set-Inhalt: 899 CHF
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5, Intel X58, LGA 1366, SLI, CFX
  • Memory: Mushkin XP3-12800 3x2GB, DDR3-1600, CL7-8-7-20@1.65V
  • CPU Cooling: Noctua CPU-Kühler NH-U12P SE1366 - Sockel 1366
  • Processor: Intel Core i7 920 D0 BOX, Quad Core, 2.66 GHz, LGA 1366
That gives a very solid base which bags of power. Then you would need to add...
  • Power Supply: Super Flower SF700R-14A, 700 Watt PSU - 137 CHF
  • HDD1 (OS): Western Digital Caviar Blue, 7200rpm, 16MB, 500GB, SATA-II - 68 CHF
  • HDD 2 (Storage): Samsung HD154UI, F2, 5400rpm, 32MB, 1.5TB, SATA-II, EcoGreen - 129 CHF
  • PC Case: Cooler Master Elite RC-335-KKN1-GP - 49 CHF
  • Video Card: Asus HD 3450 Passiv, PCI-E, 256MB DDR2, HDMI, low profile - 41 CHF
  • Monitor: Viewsonic VX2433wm, 23.6" TFT Wide, HDMI, schwarz - 245 CHF
  • DVD Drive: Lite-On iHAS324-32, 24fach DVD Writer - 39 CHF
Total: 1611 CHF

I have purposefully gone a small way over budget but simply because for the money that is an absolutely stonking performer, complete with the latest i7 CPU (an encoding monster), some very nice HD space, and a large 23" monitor. The ATI graphics card is also a great little media card for the money. It fits all of your requirements perfectly.

I could of course tone down the price by putting a smaller monitor and weaker CPU in there, but for your uses I don't think you'd want to. You would never get spec like that for the money from a pre-built machine from a computer shop.
OK, so 10 years later, I still have this computer and it is going "strong". Early in it's life, I had to replace the operating system HD but other than that, no problems. A couple of months ago, I removed a kilo of dust out of the case and it is now running more quietly. TBH, I am more or less happy with the way it works but it does have problems occasionally with video playback and it crashes every once in a while (maybe twice a month?).

I am thinking that I don't really need to replace it at this point but maybe I could do a few things to improve performance. Maybe put in a SSD for the startup hard drive and switch to Windows 10 (currently running Windows 7)?

Suggestions please. Keep it as is until it dies and spend the money on a new build? Source some cheap components to prolong the life? Any advice is appreciated.
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Re: Digitec versus Branded pc

To answer the question:
Sata SSD yes.
Windows 10, debatable. For most people that would be a yes, but a lot of people I know in the IT side of things ensure that the Microsoft telemetry, Cordana, and a few other information leaking things, are all disabled and removed.

It's likely not worth doing much more than the above given how many technologies have changed. Too much would have to be changed, with not a lot of benefit for the cost of those changes compared with the improvements achievable with a new build.

Maybe start putting a little fund aside to eventually pay for new Ryzen/motherboard/DDR4/NVMe SSD combination, as that would be most likely the next update steps if there's a major hardware failure of any of the main components. At that stage an update build would likely be a better investment than sourcing secondhand aged components to replace broken ones.
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OK, so 10 years later, I still have this computer and it is going "strong". Early in it's life, I had to replace the operating system HD but other than that, no problems. A couple of months ago, I removed a kilo of dust out of the case and it is now running more quietly. TBH, I am more or less happy with the way it works but it does have problems occasionally with video playback and it crashes every once in a while (maybe twice a month?).

I am thinking that I don't really need to replace it at this point but maybe I could do a few things to improve performance. Maybe put in a SSD for the startup hard drive and switch to Windows 10 (currently running Windows 7)?

Suggestions please. Keep it as is until it dies and spend the money on a new build? Source some cheap components to prolong the life? Any advice is appreciated.
An SSD with a fresh Windows 10 install would speed it up a hell of a lot and likely add a couple more years as long as it has no existing hardware issues.

However if you have the cash and more encoding power is important then you could always treat yourself to an upgrade and get a shiny new AMD-based PC as their new CPU's are absolutely amazing value.
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Old 27.02.2020, 19:52
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Re: Digitec versus Branded pc

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Re: Digitec versus Branded pc

For Windows 7 the support has terminated, so a upgrade to windows 10 is a must, aswell the ssd.

The rest depends on your applications (rendering videos for example)
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OK, so 10 years later, I still have this computer and it is going "strong". Early in it's life, I had to replace the operating system HD but other than that, no problems. A couple of months ago, I removed a kilo of dust out of the case and it is now running more quietly. TBH, I am more or less happy with the way it works but it does have problems occasionally with video playback and it crashes every once in a while (maybe twice a month?).

I am thinking that I don't really need to replace it at this point but maybe I could do a few things to improve performance. Maybe put in a SSD for the startup hard drive and switch to Windows 10 (currently running Windows 7)?

Suggestions please. Keep it as is until it dies and spend the money on a new build? Source some cheap components to prolong the life? Any advice is appreciated.
Windows 10 is a must. Windows 7 is out of support and your system will not benefit from security updates.

I have Windows running on one SSD, and all applications installed on another. My data is on a HDD. Adding more memory will improve performance, and probably you'll notice the benefit of even a cheap new video card.

Over the years, since I build my current PC, I've replaced motherboard, processor, memory, HDDs, and video card a few times.
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Over the years, since I build my current PC, I've replaced motherboard, processor, memory, HDDs, and video card a few times.
Is it like the yard broom people have had for thirty years and still going strong? The handle having been replaced eight times and the brush seven times?
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Re: Digitec versus Branded pc

As hobby I like to disassemble and assemble computers The LGA 1366 socket also accepts Xeon processors, they're sooooo stable. Some years I assembled a computer for a friend with 2 Xeons and still going strong.

If you want to keep it, 500 GB SSDs start around ~60 CHF. Also put new thermal paste between the CPU top and the radiator/fan assembly.

10 years is near end of life for many components. At any time, the power supply, the 2nd hard disk, or a fan may fail. Nothing bad per se, just make regular backups.
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Is it like the yard broom people have had for thirty years and still going strong? The handle having been replaced eight times and the brush seven times?
Yes. It's still the same computer.
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Yes. It's still the same computer.
Has the same outer casing too.
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Has the same outer casing too.
It does, which spoils the effect somewhat.
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