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Anyone find it ironic that these two halfwits weren't actually wearing poppies themselves?

Oh and despite making comments about Germans, one of them is wearing addidas trining shoes!!!
I believe they said Nazi G not Germany as in today!
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I believe they said Nazi G not Germany as in today!
To people like the EDL it is the same thing!
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PM me your address and I'll send you a Poppy.
Yesss!!!
I got it this afternoon.
Thanks again!
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Re: Wearing a Poppy

I only know about the Poppy because I studied and taught in England. So when I saw a pedestrian with his poppy attached to his suit this morning.. I did not look puzzled but thought he 's British or from the commonwealth anyways!!

In France, we don't wear the Poppy. We have an even better celebration: a full day off ( and the same on May 8th) . At my British school in Shanghai, the poppies were sold at the reception and would be mostly bought by the British family.. we were not expected all our Corean kids or worse...German families to rush to buy them!! Here in Hong Kong, a school where I supply has encouraged the students to buy them from their Form tutors.. I don't really see how a singaporian kids, or a russian kid who goes to this school will be interested to buy one of those? Unless it's based on the only reason that it's a British school after all!!!

Today, during my French lesson at the French school, some of my kids asked for a minute of silence at 11.00. I said yes, 2 of them ( Austrailan girls) asked for had even made their own poppies .. I explained my view, that as a French , I support this poppy day celebration since the British did saves our arse but that I'm not sure my German husband has a different opinion!! but of course, now we should expand and think of our soldiers today in Afganistan for instance.

I wish the day off we have in France would be to celebrate all the soldiers that defended in the past but also the ones who lost their lives in more recent wars.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:28
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And have the players a right to wear a poppy if they so wish?

I think as professional atheletes, they must wear the official uniform, if that doesn't include a poppy, then they shouldn't wear it.
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I think as professional atheletes, they must wear the official uniform, if that doesn't include a poppy, then they shouldn't wear it.
Girly alice bands for the hair aren't official uniform but they still wear them...

I think the compromise is that they can attach it to the black armband which is officially part of the strip, used as a mark of respect and remembrance.
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Girly alice bands for the hair aren't official uniform but they still wear them...

I think the compromise is that they can attach it to the black armband which is officially part of the strip, used as a mark of respect and remembrance.
True true true (althought they might argue that the bands are practical).

I personally feel that they should be allowed to wear poppies and should also be encouraged, but on the otherside, I kinda understand the business/professional point of view of keeping the uniform (and sponsors ) controlled. If not, perhaps there would be no limits: other flowers, ribbons, livestrong bracelets, whathaveyou for every cause and event.
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Old 11.11.2011, 13:14
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Remembrance day is about remembering all those that have died in battle, including in today's wars. I personally remember all soldiers, and civilians that have fallen due to war. (You think it's hard to get a poppy, try sourcing a white poppy). Especially the cannon fodder of the first world war, doesn't matter what side you were on, death was in many ways meaningless.

I'm a pacifist, but I still believe that we should respect those that died for what they believed in, and more so for those that died even though they did not believe in fighting.

These soldiers, sailors and airmen are all individuals and sons, and brothers and parents and so deserve to be remembered for their (willing or not) sacrifice.

And civilians, still being killed today in long forgotten war zones (land/cluster mines), must always be remembered too.

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Today, during my French lesson at the French school, some of my kids asked for a minute of silence at 11.00. I said yes, 2 of them ( Austrailan girls) asked for had even made their own poppies .. I explained my view, that as a French , I support this poppy day celebration since the British did saves our arse but that I'm not sure my German husband has a different opinion!! but of course, now we should expand and think of our soldiers today in Afganistan for instance.

I wish the day off we have in France would be to celebrate all the soldiers that defended in the past but also the ones who lost their lives in more recent wars.
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True true true (althought they might argue that the bands are practical).

I personally feel that they should be allowed to wear poppies and should also be encouraged, but on the otherside, I kinda understand the business/professional point of view of keeping the uniform (and sponsors ) controlled. If not, perhaps there would be no limits: other flowers, ribbons, livestrong bracelets, whathaveyou for every cause and event.
But any sponsor is going to commit commercial suicide if they diss the poppy on Remembrance Day. It would be a hell of risk in the UK.

Besides it was only FIFA that was trying to block it. Fine upstanding, whiter-than-white governing body of football, advising on what is appropriate or not...
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Remembrance day is about remembering all those that have died in battle, including in today's wars. I personally remember all soldiers, and civilians that have fallen due to war. (You think it's hard to get a poppy, try sourcing a white poppy). Especially the cannon fodder of the first world war, doesn't matter what side you were on, death was in many ways meaningless.

I'm a pacifist, but I still believe that we should respect those that died for what they believed in, and more so for those that died even though they did not believe in fighting.

These soldiers, sailors and airmen are all individuals and sons, and brothers and parents and so deserve to be remembered for their (willing or not) sacrifice.

And civilians, still being killed today in long forgotten war zones (land/cluster mines), must always be remembered too.
I just read your post and then went out to grab a sandwich for lunch.
On the way back a really friendly Swiss guy and his friend were looking at my poppy.
Then he came up to me and said he worked in a bar and had seen lots of British people wearing poppies and he asked.me what they were for.
I explained and told him that the poppies were a symbol of those found in battlefields of France, Belgium, Germany where so many soldiers had died. During that part my voice croaked a bit, with a lump in my throat. He thanked me for the information and I just managed to hold off a teardrop in the cold air until I'd walked away. So thank you for the above text. Lest we forget.
I heard on BBC Radio4's Today programme Thought For The Day slot that it was first an Australian and then later a South African who first suggested a five minutes silence to remener. Didn't know that.
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Keep the poppy out of sports it is a personal thing
Keep personal things in sport. It keeps it human and individual - rather than corporate and faceless.
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Keep personal things in sport. It keeps it human and individual - rather than corporate and faceless.

That is a good idea. But in reality, professional sport is very corporate and faceless, so perhaps this is a decision of transparency...unfortunately.
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