I would gladly volunteering for this

The bayonetting babies story has been levelled against:

o The German army in WW1
o The Black and Tans
o The Japanese army in WW2
o The SS in WW2
o Mugabe's ZANU-P
o Saddam's army in Kuwait
o Cossacks during the pogroms
o The Red Army in Afghanistan
o The British Redcoats during the American War of Independence
o The RUC in Belfast

In some instances, it's been true (for extra credit, which ones? ). But in the majority it's been a device used by the opponents to instill fear and hatred into the populace.

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Propaganda toll used by the British against Germany .But after the hostility ended the British apologized

I'm pretty sure that's untrue about the RUC, otherwise we would have heard much more about it.

Warefare has never been fair nor a fair!! I'm just glad that I have never had to go but I will always wear a poppy and I wear it with pride for all those who have given and still continue to give their lives, so that we may live in a better, safer World!

sorry typo, and I couldn't change it for some reason

Well ok I've highlighted my objections in the previous post and I think they are understandable to all. I'm not against 'those who protect us' and that argument, just the whole 'we must remember' stuff, it happened and we must draw a line under it not glamourise it with parades and uniforms.

Ok so that is really just IRA propaganda about the baby bayoneting, but there is documented evidence that they murdered, obducted and starved people, and (like James Bond) had a license to kill, granted by the Crown.

I'm actually sick of this now, having a liberal point of view on here is akin to having AIDS.

I'm pretty liberal (about some things), but I think your posts suffer partly because of your style . . . you're a bit sensationalist, it's the political equivalent of OMG! WTF!

Also, most people probably aren't that happy with criticising an effort to raise money for old servicemen, just when that campaign has its one time in the year in the spotlight.

As I said before, you can be anti-war, but you can still respect old soldiers . . . this is far from glamourisation.

As for liberalism and wars . . . I think most liberals are fairly ok with the Second World War, there's not very much disagreement of moral ambiguity about that one.

I was in Britain when all the 'Harry Patch' thing was going on, and I was saddened by the reporters seemingly forcing the old man to retell stories of all the Germans he killed and how he was a 'true hero', the reporters interviewing him seemed to want him to agree that Afghanistan was good and the people where dying for a 'cause', good old harry was adamant that they weren't, and they shouldn't. link >

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/08/...f-harry-patch/

Try saying something that supports the Republicans and see what reaction you get.

I think it's not so much your liberal p.o.v. but the shaky foundations which some of your arguments are based. Stick to "inflammatory" puns. That made I laugh.

Having a liberal opinion and trying to make the poppy campaign look like a war mongering campaign are two different thing .Best thing for you open a thread under which title you want .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/no...erans-complain

Some veterans agree.

Pickwicks in Geneva have poppies.

Millions of brave men and women (I am sure someone in your family tree included) gave their lives to allow you to live your life how you do today, is that not enough for you? There is a whole lot more to it than that but i don’t think it can be put any more simpler than that as to why we should remember these men and women.

No its not, its to remember those who lost their lives.

The world would be a sorry place.

Tell you what... all those who want to wear a poppy, wear one.

And all those who don't want to wear one, don't wear one.

And if anyone tries to make you wear a poppy, tell them to go **** themselves.

And if anyone gives you grief for wearing a poppy, tell them to go **** themselves.

Then everyone will be happy, no?

Confused

Correct and the fact that millions upon millions around the world choose to remember in somw way, speaks for itself.

Yeah, good. Now do you want to drop the subject before we all die of boredom?