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Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

I don't mean the knives I see advertised here:

http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/...ry=multitools&

I mean the one I see HERE:

http://www.wengerna.com/giant-knife-16999

I honestly don't think that particular knife would be useful to a soldier in battle---too heavy to carry.

Of course, I can always go to the horse's mouth and ask these guys what they actually use:

http://www.vbs.admin.ch/internet/vbs/en/home.html
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I don't mean the knives I see advertised here:

http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/...ry=multitools&

I mean the one I see HERE:

http://www.wengerna.com/giant-knife-16999

I honestly don't think that particular knife would be useful to a soldier in battle---too heavy to carry.

Of course, I can always go to the horse's mouth and ask these guys what they actually use:

http://www.vbs.admin.ch/internet/vbs/en/home.html
Yes, they do. Every enlisted soldier is required to purchase that model with their own funds before they commence their training, which means that in excess of 50% of the youth of Switzerland is toting one of these babies on the streets.

Incidentally, that is the reason why passengers are not scanned on domestic flights in Switzerland -- the alarm would go off incessantly, so the civil aviation authority has waived the requirement to "check weapons at the door". In any case, hijacking an aircraft is illegal in Switzerland, so it doesn't happen.
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Old 29.11.2009, 03:40
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Yes, they do. Every enlisted soldier is required to purchase that model with their own funds before they commence their training, which means that in excess of 50% of the youth of Switzerland is toting one of these babies on the streets.

Incidentally, that is the reason why passengers are not scanned on domestic flights in Switzerland -- the alarm would go off incessantly, so the civil aviation authority has waived the requirement to "check weapons at the door". In any case, hijacking an aircraft is illegal in Switzerland, so it doesn't happen.
Do you mean every Swiss solder must purchase a GIANT Swiss Army knife which costs $1400 USD or almost as much as the computer I'm typing this post on?

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Old 29.11.2009, 03:45
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Do you mean every Swiss solder must purchase a GIANT Swiss Army knife which costs $1400 USD or almost as much as the computer I'm typing this post on?

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They purchase it before they become a soldier. Mods don't kid.
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Old 29.11.2009, 03:58
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

Well, you can't say the Swiss don't have a sense of humour. Wenger---the official Swiss manufacturer of this knife---is posting links on their web site to news reports about the knife in the American media, even though these reports (like Fox News and Jay Leno) are incredulous that such a knife actually exists.

If a Swiss soldier is required to spend over 1409 CHF on his knife before he becomes a soldier, how much must he spend on his rifle and ammunition?

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Old 29.11.2009, 04:19
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

Yes, they give us the following one:


And with it you can disassemble and reassemble the following:

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Yes, they give us the following one:


And with it you can disassemble and reassemble the following:

That I can understand. I'm having a hard time believing that every Swiss soldier would be required to buy THIS before becoming a soldier:


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That I can understand. I'm having a hard time believing that every Swiss soldier would be required to buy THIS before becoming a soldier:


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Strictly reserved for the officers!
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Old 29.11.2009, 06:34
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Yes, they give us the following one:


And with it you can disassemble and reassemble the following:

Yes that's the knife every soldier gets (not a joke). But gladly, the gun has changed:

http://www.news-service.admin.ch/NSB...ments/3900.jpg
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Yes that's the knife every soldier gets (not a joke). But gladly, the gun has changed:

http://www.news-service.admin.ch/NSB...ments/3900.jpg
Yeah I know. I am an old fart. That was a heavy rifle to carry around.
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Old 29.11.2009, 10:06
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

This, I believe, is the current military issue army knife:-



More info here
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That I can understand. I'm having a hard time believing that every Swiss soldier would be required to buy THIS before becoming a soldier:


Edward J. Cunningham
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but with this knife you could assemble this.... Opps I put the wings on the wrong way..
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If a Swiss soldier is required to spend over 1409 CHF on his knife before he becomes a soldier, how much must he spend on his rifle and ammunition?
Well, less. A neutralistic island of neutralism needs the giant knife more than oxygen, whereas a rifle is next to useless. This is why the "firearms" you see with the enlisted child soldiers are in fact dummies. There have been a few who have found out about this but of course, there is no gossip in Switzerland.
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Old 29.11.2009, 10:34
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

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Yes, they give us the following one:


And with it you can disassemble and reassemble the following:

We mainly use them for opening tins at our house. And bottles of beer.
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Old 29.11.2009, 10:35
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That I can understand. I'm having a hard time believing that every Swiss soldier would be required to buy THIS before becoming a soldier:


Edward J. Cunningham
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Swiss are a bit bigger than your average Europeans. It's not such a problem for them to carry it.
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

you do not have to purchase it, the army gives it to you (well lends it), but if you lose it you have to pay for a new one.

also if you lose it, you have the mp on your tail!

at all times you (except for during sleeping hours) you have to have the knife on you, in the left hand pocket of your jacket.

hope this helps
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

Slaphead is right, that's the new really genuine original Swiss Army knife that's given to every soldier in boot camp. The one shown by ch-expat was replaced by it this year. There was some discussion because for quite a while the gubmint was planning on having the new one produced abroad (!).

I bought a new one this year just to have a try and I used it on several outdoorsy occasions in the USA this summer. It's fairly good, and it scored high with those American outdoors nuts. However, I still carry the old one in my pocket when not doing real outdoors stuff.

On the other hand, of course 22 yards and Mud are right too. Every Swiss recrutee has to bring their own giant knife to boot camp. The Army provides a special rucksack for it, though, made of breathable cammo Mylar and dubbing as an insulation cushion for those that are prone to bladder inflammations and the like. It can be velcroed (remember, Velcro is another Swiss invention) to the lap top computer backpack.
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Old 29.11.2009, 11:22
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This, I believe, is the current military issue army knife:-



More info here
But it camouflage colour. How would you ever find it if you dropped it.
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Old 29.11.2009, 11:36
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

Back in the Finnish army, they gave us a "Hukari", a knife with a rectangular black blade about 2 by 12 inches with a black rubber handle large enough to get a good grip with.

We used it to cut branches, chop wood etc... still got mine

*edit* like this: http://www.jyrekom.fi/taiter/hukari.html

pfff, Swiss and their puny army knives
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Re: Does the Swiss Army really use this knife?

The marching seems a bit sloppy:

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?s...11100926049635

I'm mightily amused that the Swiss have a combined defence and sports ministry.

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