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Old 20.12.2009, 00:07
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

Movies
Home: Pure 90-120 minutes of uninterrupted bliss.
Here: 15 minutes interval of doing f*** all. I dont need the WC, I went before I entered the cinema. I dont have an incontinence problem.

Public transport
Here: Bus driver greets you with a "Gruezi!" when you board the bus. I almost died of shock when it first happened to me here.
Back home: Bus driver will tell you to hurry the **** up and stop wasting his time if you ever dream of greeting him.

Food
Home: Hungry at 2am? Call a couple of friends and head out for "supper".
Here? Starve or hit Langstrasse

Supermarkets
Here: Stare blankly into space whilst cashier is scanning your items. Take your own sweet time to pay and even a longer time to pack.
Home: Pack as quick as you can before you get abuse hurled at you or loud tuts from everyone behind, even the cashier.

Bumping into a friend on street
Here: Stop, exclaim loudly in excitment, kiss 3 times regardless of the pedestrains behind you who have to make a slight detour.
Home: Hey!!!!! *does the call me signal* - if above is done, step aside from flow of traffic or risk verbal abuse from fellow pedestrians.

Driving and some arsewipe cuts into your lane without signalling
Here: Flip the bird
Home: Flip the bird. Other driver copies down your licence plate number, reports you to the police and you get a fine.
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Old 20.12.2009, 00:10
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

ISR: You can be 99% sure CH won't be mentioned in the news.
CH: You can be 99% sure ISR will be mentioned in the news.
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UK: Yet another British soldier was killed in Afghanistan today. That brings the total killed this year to 103.
CH: Haven't fought a war in over 400 years.
1847-48 was the Sonderbunds-Krieg (Secession-war) which was lost by Luzern and their allies (Uri, Schwyz, Unterwalden) and won by pro-union armies under the joint command of General Henri Dufour. This was the start of modern Switzerland, which adopted a new constitution by translating the USA constitution into German, French and Italian.
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Old 20.12.2009, 03:21
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CH: people don't pish in public. Parks smell like grass.
Home: drunks pish everywhere.

Home: not much into polite small talking, ironic humor and quite selfdeprecating.
CH: a big on exchanging formal small talk, etc. The jokes are often announced. The "ceremoniallity" is a little cute, though.

CH: people plan their social agenda way ahead. Spontaneity makes people nervous here, it seems.
Home: people like to decide to do things (party, trips, gigs) the last second. I am used to friends just callin' to see if we can meet or play the same day, in an hour, etc.

Home: families of friends hang together much more, help and organize things for kids, etc. (guys even have their own beer camps, girls go to spas together, there is a beer spa too, kids sleep over all the time, kid events every weekend, etc..)
CH: everything seems to be happening within the family circle. Everything is so pricey, it reflects in social and family life.

Home: hospitable, people do not have much but will share it.
CH: hospitality somewhat measured and dosed. You have to work hard for your acceptance here.

Home: people steal a lot more
CH: things work on honorable system, one can actually use Lost and Found, as people return found items.

Home: girls are more independent and outgoing. People do not take themselves too seriously, though, they get laughed at if they do.
CH: a lot of shyness and tiptoeing. If you are in a couple in front of the counter (bank, restaurant, etc..), the guy gets addressed first (as the expected breadwinner). It is the opposite at home.

Home: you get scolded if you think your nationality makes you better
CH: this country seems to be focused on itself, to some extend.

Home: cops are feared and respected
CH: cops are kinda community friends

Home: young people play boardgames and have boardgame clubs
Ch: old people play giant boardgames in parks, chess, petanque, that's cool..

Home: if you do not perform well at your work, you fear losing your job, high competition
CH: I am not really sure if this mindset is here, at least in customer service

Home: people give seats to elderly and help out preggos and moms with pushchairs
CH: strangers seem to interact with kids a lot more than back home, touch babies, while back home people do not want to be overbearing, keep quiet around people's kids

Home: people are obsessed with food but what you can buy to cook from is not high quality, restaurant food is cheap and in a huge choice
CH: the quality of food to buy is topnotch, while the restaurants...ugh. $$$$

CH: people walk into you
Home: if you walk into somebody arrogantly and do not apologize, you risk getting punched (even by by-stenders)

CH: shop assistants do not really manage the line of customers waiting to be served.
Home: shop assistants notice who came first and who is cutting in front of other customers and do not serve this person until his/her turn . It's humiliating so people do not even attempt.
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Old 20.12.2009, 06:45
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1847-48 was the Sonderbunds-Krieg (Secession-war) which was lost by Luzern and their allies (Uri, Schwyz, Unterwalden) and won by pro-union armies under the joint command of General Henri Dufour.
Yeah, I know but that was the Swiss fighting among themselves. I wasn't counting domestic violence.
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Old 20.12.2009, 11:34
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Yeah, I know but that was the Swiss fighting among themselves. I wasn't counting domestic violence.
It was a full scale war, just as the American Civil War, except that the union in the USA already had a united army. The last wars in Switzerland were the Napoleonic Wars, first the invasion by the unified French army in 1798 which was lost by the various armies in the Swiss Federation, then later (1812-14) mainly between French and Russians (the Sihl at times the ceasefire-line with the French west and the Russians east of the river).
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Dear all

OK, I may have made a general comment. As I said from the offset, you would have to kill me to go back to the UK ! so it can't be that bad here.

No offence taken, but VIJU you didnt get my point. I agree that integration is key and if you do not make an effort then it really is your fault, however, try being a women in the Swiss workforce who is pregnant, or had kids, and try to get fairness, it doesnt exist, there are no rules to protect you , like you have in the UK. Here, you only survive if you are fit enough to survive. Why on a CV here, you have to add a picture, state your sex, age, marriage status etc etc, is it really relevant for the job you are applying for ?

I am lucky, I am a man, I am educated and earn good money, I have a British accent and am fully integrated (speak German too!) . But I know what happens when all the boxes are not ticked. Its not as easy to be accepted as in the UK. (FACT!).

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I might have got confused by *some other regularly inflamatory posts, and seen your post in that light/context initially, and also been addressing them as well when i quoted your post, and thats a mistake. When i re-read my reply to you now i see its not something i am happy about, and i should not have let the *above infuence me in my reply to you.
Yesterday I had also acknowledged my mistake to another poster who pointed this out to me, agreed with him that your post was not intended to insult at all, and said i will correct any mistakes.

I then PMed you as i had promised him, expressed my deep regret to you, and also explained how it was not actually your post that caused me to make that statement. I think i've explained in detail how i happenned to agree with everything you said when they were put in the right perspective, and acknowledged that Switzerland needs to improve on women's rights on specific fronts, like for example maternity leave period, woman not having job security because she might go the family way, women having to work twice as hard as men to achieve promotions(should be on merit and not on gender), etc.

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Since I call home 2 countries here go my differences:

Peru: Want to visit a friend? Call him and tell him what he's doing or just drop by.
Netherlands: Want to visit a friend? Make an appoinment at least a month in advance
CH: Read Netherlands...

Peru: You want to recycle? Recycling? Que? Oh yeah good luck!
NL: You can deposit paper/glass/clothes/batteries near your supermarket every day of the week
CH: You can dceposit everything but paper in a nearby bin but for paper wait for that day in the month when it will be picked up

Peru: You bought a bycicle, you left it outside, following HOUR no more bike. Plus why would you buy a bike, are you crazy? Want to use your Ipod outside? Dont, or dont use public transport
NL: You leave your bike outside, it will be there if it has a lock (or two), you can use your Ipod anywhere you want
CH:Lock your bike and its safe, you can go out with an Ipod of course where do you think you are?

Peru: You are hungry at 4 am, you have everything to choose from
NL: If you are not in Amsterdam tough luck
CH: Poor you if there is no food on your fridge
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CH: You use your bike everywhere even in winter (some people do at least)
Cyprus: Bike? Whats this?

CH: Great public transport always on time
Cyprus: No buses. No public transport at all. (Except if you call a bus coming two times per day public transport). Basically if you dont have a car you are ******
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

Maybe it's just me... but if folks could specify 'home' (esp. those who haven't given their nationality) I think it'll be more useful.
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

India and CH

CH: Decline something at an invited dinner => unbearable ignominy to the hosts.
India: The typical response in India is 'bindass' a slang meaning 'no worries'. Eat what you want, however you like.

CH: Bargaining is a borderline crime.
India: Bargain tomatoes, cab fares, clothes - anything. Do the typical Indian bargain dance - propose a ridiculously low price, be declined, walk away 10 m, be called back, settle for an in-between price, flash a smile.

Many others are just too divergent to warrant comparison.
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US – Go to dinner with colleague, when bill comes hand server two credit cards. Server splits total, runs cards, returns with receipts, time two minutes.

CH – Go to dinner with colleague, when bill comes hand server two credit cards. Server stands there for 30 seconds staring at you like you’re a fool while you try to explain you want to split the bill. Server goes back to the counter and uses a calculator to divide every single item, creates two new bills, comes back to the table to show, goes back to counter to run cards, returns with receipts, time 15 minutes.


US – New Director arrives in office from another country. Managing Director takes new Director around and makes introductions. New Director’s office is fully functional with furniture, working network and phone, office supplies etc. Someone shows up to help with unpacking, someone else shows up to help with access to shared drives and local printers. Other management, takes new colleague out to lunch Managing Director takes new Director out to dinner.

CH – New Director arrives in office from another country. Managing Director out of office all day. New Director’s office has a desk and a chair that is still in a box unassembled, network connection is not complete, Director has to find technician to patch cable in comms room and deliver phone, Director has to configure own extension number and IP. Desk is empty, have to hunt down pens, note pads, paper clips etc.. New Director has to find network printers, run through printer config to find IPs, download drivers and add printers to printer list. New colleagues go to lunch, do not invite new Director. After 4 weeks Managing Director still has not invited new Director to dinner.


US – First snowfall expected, TV stations run 48 hours of emerging planning for the imminent white death. Kroger (Midwest food store) runs never ending TV commercials to stock up for the expected disaster. Home supply stores (Home Depot, Lowes) run out of salt, snow shovels and fire logs. Snow starts, cars crash, traffic is at a standstill for hours, a 20 minute commute takes 4 hours. TV stations run 48 hours of news showing all the crashes. Schools close, businesses close, TV stations run crawler below crash videos with closings.

CH – What snow
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MD/RO/RU: it is almost a sin to drink a sip of wine (any alcohol drink) without toasting
CH: haven't heard a toast in my 3 mnths here
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a bit off topic, sorry. But I just wanted say that I adore this thread.
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US: within the locker room of the gym; someone else enters and chooses the locker furthest from you.

CH: within the locker room of the gym; someone else enters and chooses the locker directly adjacent to yours.


US: within the locker room of the gym; someone you dont know enters (or leaves) and says nothing to you.

CH: within the locker room of the gym; someone you dont know enters (or leaves) and says salü (or adè) to you.
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a bit off topic, sorry. But I just wanted say that I adore this thread.
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what would sada say...
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

i have to add one more

parking

switzerland: people park their cars only to the designated places and they make sure that the car fits exactly in the lines drawn on the ground.

greece: parking places? what is that? any open space is a potential parking space, as far as greeks are concerned! and that means literally any open space...we are quite creative! not to mention double parking (does this word make sense btw or is it just a greek phenomenon?) to go and buy cigarettes, coffee or even go to the doctor
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MD/RO/RU: it is almost a sin to drink a sip of wine (any alcohol drink) without toasting
CH: haven't heard a toast in my 3 mnths here
Ever heard "Proscht" ? This IS a "toast" here. And nobody, if in company, will drink without having done so. It happens permanently. So that your statement is shocking.
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US: within the locker room of the gym; someone you dont know enters (or leaves) and says nothing to you.

CH: within the locker room of the gym; someone you dont know enters (or leaves) and says salü (or adè) to you.
Not to say salü and adieu/adé would be awfully bad behaviour and most unpolite !
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