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Old 21.12.2009, 16:30
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

And they say the Swiss are miserable.
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

In my country, you dont have to "schedule it" when you want to see a friend.

One of my Swiss colleagues, who has given her number to a girl, has not yet taken her out on a date coz hes too busy
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And they say the Swiss are miserable.
A drunk Swiss guy invited me to sit down with him, on the train journey on Sat evening... and he said We Swiss are crazy people, and he actually was!! Also he said He makes great jokes but his English is a bit bad.

And to be honest, that one guy has changed my perception of Swiss people quite a bit
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:07
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

You people probably just hang out with accountants and It consultants.
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:11
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

in my country of origin (not what i would call "home"), I would not be asked to provide "any Swiss id" for renting application...
Especially when I provided a copy of my passport, and permis B.
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:17
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UK: Car drivers are courteous and let you in.
CH: No Way!

UK: Cars generally keep their distance when cruising along the road
CH: They have to drive up your a*se even if there are cars in front of you.

UK: Car drivers acknowledge and show gratification when you let them in
CH: They either don't look at you or look at you as if you were some gullible t*sser.
Lol... I obviously wasn't living in your area of the UK then... must have blinked or something...
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:21
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When shopping for something in the US, somebody wants
to see an item in front of which you are standing.

CH: The person pushes you out of the way and looks like you are crazy
when you give them a strange look.

US: Excuse me, may I see the so & so please.
I get this all the time. What's worse is that instead of asking me to move they try to carry things over my baby in her stroller - things like tin cans or hot soup in the cafeterias
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:31
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

UK: any random group of people will be able to let everybody have fair access to some resource e.g. through queueing, taking turns, or not taking 5 of something when there is just enough for one each.

CH: currently stuck in round 5 of a committee meeting to decide what system should be put in place to prevent abuse (we know certain persons who will try to find a loophole).
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:37
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UK: any random group of people will be able to let everybody have fair access to some resource e.g. queueing etc.

CH: currently stuck in round 5 of a committee meeting to decide what system should be put in place to prevent abuse (we know certain persons who will try to find a loophole).
That's "funny" that the flat hunting situation in lausanne.

Apparently there's a system in place and a set of law to prevent abuses.

In theory because in practice it's a lot of bribes, friend preferences, discrimination, etc...

And no one cares, even the "as something" the association for protecting tenants in Lausanne...

For example by law it seems agencies must publish the flat "available" and let some visits. In practice the flat is already taken and signed prior the first visit happens...
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Old 21.12.2009, 17:53
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

Yeah, that horrible Régis-system in Lausanne and Geneva, they rather have free market a go at it, this institustionalised discrimination reminds me of a socialist country where only those "who know someone" can get an appartment at a reasonable price, bloody hated it in Geneva.

edit: Oh, I'm derailing the thread with my rants... please go on!
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Old 21.12.2009, 18:37
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

CH: We introduce by our last names, because first names are way too personal. We aren't friends. We simply need to get over this situation so we can get on with the rest of our lives. Don't ask me for favors.

US: We introduce by our first names, because with our last name, they can look us up in a directory. We aren't friends. We simply need to get over this situation so we can get on with the rest of our lives. You might be an axe-murderer.
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Old 21.12.2009, 18:52
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Florist leaves plants and other stuff out on the pavement in the village overnight:-
UK: Nothing there in the morning...would be long gone and no one would know who the culprit was.
CH: Everything exactly as florist left it, no one touches anything.
(This applies to all kinds of stuff, Christmas lanterns outside houses, park benches not cemented down, etc. etc.)

Pass an unfamiliar child in the street in the village:-
UK: Child moves as far away as possible and avoids eye contact or glances suspiciously.
CH: Child initiates a 'Grüetzi' and isn't scared to make eye contact. Respect!!

Coming to Switzerland was definitely like going back 30 years in the UK, but with all the mod cons and high tech efficiency that other countries can only dream of. I would like to stay!

P.S. I love the Swiss German language: it's unique, quirky, and a challenge to learn... it's taking some time but I'm determined to get it!

P.P.S. Can't we all just get along...?
Couldn't agree more, but you could exchange florist for builder, shop (we've seen stock left overnight), christmas tree etc. etc. in the first one!

To add one:

CH: Rules are rules and there to be obeyed
UK: Rules are there to be broken

UK/US: Police "to serve and protect"
CH: Police to enforce (above rules) - at least you know where you stand
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Old 21.12.2009, 22:47
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

CY: No parking place? No problem! Thats what pavements are for. And disabled parking places? To have more room to open the doors obviously!!

CH: Even if they look for a parking place for 15 minutes, people will still not park on a disabled space.
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Old 21.12.2009, 23:40
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It might be just a few seconds, but it feels very, very odd to do it.
Not odd really but very natural. It in Germany would be "Schönen Tag allerseits" or in France "Bonjour Mesdames et Messieurs" and in Italy simply "Buon Giorno" ...
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Not odd really but very natural.
There's nothing natural about speaking in a foreign language.
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There's nothing natural about speaking in a foreign language.
The point about "foreign" languages is to accept as natural things you would not have thought in your native tongue. I mean for example if you are on visit in Milano, to greet folks with "Buon Giorno" should come from you as the most natural thing in the world. Just as easy as "Sabah ul-Kheir" in Cairo for example ! Everything is soooo easy with some flexibility .....
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Old 22.12.2009, 08:36
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Re: Cultural differences between Switzerland and your own country

I think that, if you love the foreign language, it become natural to use it, kind of a second nature.

Even if I'm still learning English, I surprise myself thinking and speaking in English when I'm alone or if I speak to my cat.

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There's nothing natural about speaking in a foreign language.
Don't you just hate those English expat old timers who say "Mmm....now what's that word in English?"
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Don't you just hate those English expat old timers who say "Mmm....now what's that word in English?"
I do... but I do it myself!
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There's nothing natural about speaking in a foreign language.
if that "foreign language" is your daily way of communication then it becomes the most natural thing as briefing.
As Bertrand says, you end up thinking and dreaming in that "foreign" language, and even talking to your cat!
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