The (Ice) Hockey Thread - Page 3

luminousmind08 · #41 10.02.2010, 16:44

	Quote:	HashBrown
	Nah, he means the Avalanche. I would hazard a guess that like the Nordiques, if the Canucks moved to a different city, they would have a chance of winning The Cup. In Vancouver, they never will, despite how good their team is.

Only if they bring back "the" jersey

gking · #42 10.02.2010, 16:47

	Quote:	Chemmie
	And the US did outplay us (?) and deserved to win, perhaps even the New Years Eve game.

Good question. I just feel that in these international tournaments, when they are playing with the Maple Leaf on their sweaters, we're all part of the team. No, I'm not there playing, nor did I have a hand in any selections or strategy, but I feel the excitement when they win and the sorrow when they lose (obviously not to the degree I would if I was on the ice). Maybe a bit patriotic, but for me when I describe victories or loses of any national team (from WJHC to the Spengler) it is an "us" or a "we" and never a "they", it is a part of my own personal Canadian identity.

gking · #43 10.02.2010, 17:04

I'm not old enough to remember that one, this is the classic Vancouver one for me (circa Cup run 94):

There was talk Linden was going to light the Olympic flame on Friday. That would have been awesome, but it's not going to happen, because 90% of the world would be saying "Who the hell is this guy?".

HashBrown · #44 10.02.2010, 17:06

Nobody knew the girl who lit the flame in Calgary. That's the difference between these two Olympics.

luminousmind08 · #45 10.02.2010, 17:25

	Quote:	HashBrown
	Nobody knew the girl who lit the flame in Calgary. That's the difference between these two Olympics.

That and corporate sponsorship...Both broadcast by CTV ironically.

Mikeybroomers · #46 10.02.2010, 17:26

	Quote:	gking
	Good question. I just feel that in these international tournaments, when they are playing with the Maple Leaf on their sweaters, we're all part of the team. No, I'm not there playing, nor did I have a hand in any selections or strategy, but I feel the excitement when they win and the sorrow when they lose (obviously not to the degree I would if I was on the ice). Maybe a bit patriotic, but for me when I describe victories or loses of any national team (from WJHC to the Spengler) it is an "us" or a "we" and never a "they", it is a part of my own personal Canadian identity.

I've always subscribed to the same feeling. I think that some of the time (possibly most of the time, in club cases), the fans actually care more than the players whether they win or lose.

I remember a comedy film about that kinda thing but nonetheless the sentiment is very true. When a national team wins, the whole country is on a high, people are generally a bit nicer to each other and everyone has a spring in their step.

dakman · #47 10.02.2010, 17:33

as they are using smaller rinks, won't that favor Canada and the US?

luminousmind08 · #48 10.02.2010, 17:38

	Quote:	dakman
	as they are using smaller rinks, won't that favor Canada and the US?

Not anymore IMHO. Most of the players playing are in the NHL so I think that advantage is over played. Perhaps in the prelims but not for the medal contenders anyway.

Chemmie · #49 10.02.2010, 17:41

	Quote:	gking
	Good question. I just feel that in these international tournaments, when they are playing with the Maple Leaf on their sweaters, we're all part of the team. No, I'm not there playing, nor did I have a hand in any selections or strategy, but I feel the excitement when they win and the sorrow when they lose (obviously not to the degree I would if I was on the ice). Maybe a bit patriotic, but for me when I describe victories or loses of any national team (from WJHC to the Spengler) it is an "us" or a "we" and never a "they", it is a part of my own personal Canadian identity.

I'm for sure on the same page with these sentiments.

The question mark was meant for marking the odd "US" vs "us" literary use-not being able to distinguish the American Team and the Canadian fan massive.
Sorry for the confusion, but good chance to make a great point

HashBrown · #50 10.02.2010, 17:46

I've always used we/us in reference to sports teams I support. Didn't realise it was such a big deal. For a national team or the team from where you live/lived, seems specifically natural.

luminousmind08 · #51 10.02.2010, 17:54

	Quote:	gking
	Good question. I just feel that in these international tournaments, when they are playing with the Maple Leaf on their sweaters, we're all part of the team. No, I'm not there playing, nor did I have a hand in any selections or strategy, but I feel the excitement when they win and the sorrow when they lose (obviously not to the degree I would if I was on the ice). Maybe a bit patriotic, but for me when I describe victories or loses of any national team (from WJHC to the Spengler) it is an "us" or a "we" and never a "they", it is a part of my own personal Canadian identity.

Agree entirely. We always refer to we. I'd hate to say, but sometimes it extends to the Habs as well

HashBrown · #52 10.02.2010, 17:58

Hey Mikey, you cheering for Canada or Sweden?

Mikeybroomers · #53 11.02.2010, 03:59

	Quote:	HashBrown
	Hey Mikey, you cheering for Canada or Sweden?

Canada

Up at stupid o'clock watching th Avs game and just put on Caps @ Habs, Habs currently lead 5-4 with just under 9 mins left. Considering the Habs lead 5-2 and the Caps could have their huge win streak broken, I think these last few minutes are gonna be rather awesome!!

Edit - and it was! The Caps tied it at 5 with 18 seconds to play but then Plekanec snatches it in OT. Go Habs!

luminousmind08 · #54 11.02.2010, 09:02

Forsberg on a plane, playing for Sweden?

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/new...tml?cid=rsstsn

Chemmie · #55 11.02.2010, 09:13

Those Swedes are starting to look like they have a nicely stacked team by the roster names.

I'm looking forward to seeing them play together.

gking · #56 11.02.2010, 09:18

Sweet win by the Habs. They haven't scored 6 goals very much (at all?) this year and with like 5 AHL'ers in the lineup and playing the hottest team in the NHL, I applaud the effort.

Not sure if the Caps are going to roll over for the Sens tonight now that the Olympic break is nigh and their streak is over or if they will bring the intensity because their streak was broken. Oh well, just for good measure we'll beat them in regulation! You heard it here first.

Well Mikey, at least the Avs won in OT as well. All in all a good night of hockey to stay up (get up?) and watch.

I actually wasn't surprised by Forsberg being on th team. I think he has planned to play and Sweden have planned to play him all along. I guess the only thing maybe holding him back would have been the injuries. Personally I would take half of Forsberg in place of Pronger, Bergeron and Morrow.

Mikeybroomers · #57 11.02.2010, 10:09

Yeah, not a bad night indeed, Greg! Toying with the idea of watching the Sens beat the Caps too. Should be a great game!

Durno's game tying goal and Cumiskey's OT goal were worth staying up for. Nearly called it a night at 3-1 down but glad I stuck with it! Was gonna give it until the TV timeout in the 3rd period but Chris Stewart scored and saved my night!! Now, fingers crossed for the 'Nucks losing tonight...

Nickyboy · #58 11.02.2010, 10:48

Knowing Vancouver's penchant for rioting ('94 Stanley Cup loss, '02 cancelled GNR concert etc), will there be chaos in the streets if Canada wins or loses the gold medal match?

HashBrown · #59 11.02.2010, 10:53

Vancouver has been closed off and shut down for the Olympics. Would be hard to arrange a riot with the whole nation's police force there.

But would be nice though!

Chemmie · #60 11.02.2010, 10:54

	Quote:	Nickyboy
	Knowing Vancouver's penchant for rioting ('94 Stanley Cup loss, '02 cancelled GNR concert etc), will there be chaos in the streets if Canada wins or loses the gold medal match?

I think the bigger risk will be from hippy/protestors using such an event (win/loss) as a cover up for anarchy. Sorta in the montreal 2008 style.