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Old 28.02.2010, 13:53
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Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Thought I'd make a quick post outlining my experience, as although there is some info here on EF it's not put together in one place.

Firstly ... is buying most of your stuff in Ikea a good idea? I plan on being in Switzerland for a year or two and have rented an unfurnished house. My choice seems to be either cheap (Ikea, Conforma, Otto's etc.) or expensive (the rest).

If I buy expensive I could either cart it back to London when I leave, which I can't be bothered to do, or sell it on as it'll still retain its value. But will it? Who wants to buy an expensive Ligne Roset wardrobe second hand for 1000Fr when you can buy a cheap new one from Ikea, flat-packed, for 300? As many people only plan on staying a couple of years it's hard to justify high prices. And if can, or are planning on staying many years, you probably want your own new designer furniture.

Buying cheap ... do I buy so cheap that it lasts a year or two and falls apart, with the worry that it's a pile of crap and I start to resent it, or do I buy mid-range cheap and hope to sell it on afterwards? I chose that route. In fact, other people have done the same and I've bought some things from ads here on EF. Small things, like bedside tables, lights etc. Most people simply halve the Ikea price. OK, not a great deal for second hand stuff but assuming it's not damaged it's fine.

So, after all my justification, I wanted to buy all my furniture from Ikea.

Choices ...

1. Ask a friend with a van or big car to help me for beer money. I don't like taking advantage like that, and haven't been here long enough to have that kind of friendship with anyone. Plus I'd be pissed off if someone asked me to do that for them, so this was out.

2. Get it all delivered. It costs 10% of the price of the stuff you buy, minimum 95Fr. Advantages ... no carrying. Disadvantages ... might have to wait a couple of weeks for your stuff and take time off work when it arrives.

3. Hire a van at Ikea. I didn't get full details due to the queue at the counter, but it seems to be 30Fr an hour. Cheap! However unless you have help and are well co-ordinated I reckon it'll take a bit more than an hour to load the van, drive to your place, unload, and take the van back. So 60Fr. Advantage ... cheap. Disadvantage ... the van needs to be pre-booked especially at the weekend and I'd be unable to not rush like mad trying to get it all done in one hour. That's just me

4. Hire a car. I ended up doing this. I went to Sixt by Badischer Bahnhof (where I live at the moment) and begged for a good price. Got a Modeo hatchback (no estate/combi for cheap, unfortunately) for 95Fr all in, for 24 hours. Ended up doing two trips to Ikea (if I had a combi it might have all fit in the one load), a trip to Weil am Rhein to stock up on beer and household products, and 20 minutes* to find a garage to fill up. Fuel cost 25Fr.

* I spent 20 minutes driving around, in the rain, in a city I'm not familiar with trying to find an open garage. BIG TIP Garages here are never "open" the way I expect them to be. You stick your credit card in the pump and fill up. No staff. I could have saved 19 minutes if I knew that

Finally, the staff in Ikea all spoke English, all were friendly, and despite it being Saturday there were enough staff so that no wait was unbearable.

If only I was smart enough to realise that just having all the flat-packed stuff in my apartment wasn't enough. I have no tools. Will sort that out thanks to a friendly EF'er.

I waffle, I know, as I can type fast, but I hope this is helpful to someone.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Make use of the beer that you got and have a "Flatpack" Party.

You might not know anyone well enough to just ask for help, but if you offer free beer then you can kill two birds with one stone - cheap labour and make a friend or two.

I'd offer to help, but I'm in UK for two weeks. If you're still stuck in a fortnight them PM me.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Thanks - good idea! However I'm going to kill my evenings next week by slowly making everything. Once done I might have a flat-warming party. That way, people get beer for nothing and hence I'll be more popular ;)
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If only I was smart enough to realise that just having all the flat-packed stuff in my apartment wasn't enough. I have no tools. Will sort that out thanks to a friendly EF'er.

I waffle, I know, as I can type fast, but I hope this is helpful to someone.
isn't the point to Ikea furniture to not need tools??
I found this problem too when we moved before christmas!!
I became an expert at putting things together until I came to the end and has a few EXTRA bits :O oops!! but yes luckily I had a friend with and electric drill!! saved lots of time with the big things!! and I didn't get annoyed by the little thingy they give you to put it all together!!


you were clever though you bought the beer too :P I forgot that helpful tip :P
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Old 28.02.2010, 14:10
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Besides IKEA delivery which might take a couple of weeks, there is another option of hiring a warentaxi. Is that option available in Basel Ikea?

Warentaxis are private companies on stand-by with IKEA when there are people (like me) who cant be arsed to wait or are desperate to get furniture in. They will deliver the furniture to your home the very same day or latest, the next day.

In fact, they will help you assemble the furniture (hourly charge!).

However, having said that, besides a delivery fee, based on my experience, they charge for:

1. travel times (even the time of the workmen travelling back to their office)

2. They'll leave at 5:30pm sharp regardless of whether all your furniture has been assembled or not. So if you have a huge bulk of furniture, best to give them a heads up for them to estimate the number of hours required to assemble and factor in an additional half day needed. I had a rude shock and was left to assemble quite a bit myself over the next couple of days when they decided to pack up and leave on the dot - and shelling out almost 1000 CHF for their services that day.

The IKEA customer services person never communicated those points to me. Frankly, if I knew, I would have gathered some friends to help out and hired a van by myself. Will definitely work out cheaper. Hopefully, other fellow EFers will benefit from these pointers.

Also, make sure you check your flat after they leave. The men were careless during the process of moving in the furniture as well as assembling. Marks were left on my otherwise brand new flat walls and I had to call them back to remove them.
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Old 28.02.2010, 17:48
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

We moved into our flat at the beginning of Feb. We had been to IKEA several times, to pick out what we wanted. Most of the items we wanted were not available to order online, except out 2 sofas which were only available by delivery (There was no charge for delivery on these BTW).

The rest of the items we went 1 week before we moved. Because we did not feel like running around thru the ailes and warehouse, picking out our own items, we chose for them to do it for us. The delivery service there does that (for a fee of course).

We paid for the furniture at the customer service counter for all of the items, and received a receipt and a IKEA card which we gave to the delivery co. We scheduled a date for a Saturday. They said they would be there between 8 and 10. The cost for delivery is 10% of the total items value (min 95 CHF). The cost for them to pull the items as I recall was about 150 CHF.

So except for the sofas, the cost of the delivery for all of the furniture was about 450 CHF. I did not opt to have them assemble, as they charge 50-60 CHF/hr and typically have 2 guys. With all we had, that would have been very expensive.

We contacted Joe the Handyman on this forum, 2 days before I needed him, as my original help cancelled (that is another post). He was great. He was able to help me get most of the items assembled within 4 hours. I HIGHLY reccommend him...

FYI, and items you can order online thru IKEA you should, as the delivery charge direct from them is about 1/2 of the instore delivery.
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Old 28.02.2010, 17:53
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

I have shopped at IKEA at Pratteln and it was OK they have some stuff that is better quality than their usual stuff but a bit more expensive, still affordable. We only had to wait for 3 days for our stuff to be delivered and the first time we only waited 1 day so that is pretty good I would say.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

If you're not too fussy about buying everything new, there's a second hand shop in Basel called Fetag (www.fetag.ch), Oetlingerstrasse 50. They have a decent collection of each and every possible household item under the sun and the prices are really cheap.

I went there every day for a week or so and was lucky to stumble upon a great deal wherein I got everything for a rock bottom price. They also throw in delivery and assembly along with the actual sale (or if the items are numerous, then they charge a certain % of the overall price).

The quality is quite good for second hand stuff. Worth trying out.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

I second the recommendation of Fetag. Me also found there decent furniture decently priced and the people working there are nice and friendly. Delivery and assembly crue is very polite and professional (they took with a gentle smile my almost interminable "no, I want this wardrobe here, no - here, no - better here..." and finally assembled it in only 10 minutes or less).
But Fetag is only good when you have time and no urgency for furniture - I used to go there now and then for almost a month, leisurely looking for what's "new" in the shop and having nice discussions with the girl at the counter.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Well, I bought the things I consider important (bed,mattress, cupboard, dining table and chairs) and can take my time and pick up smaller things as I find them.

So Fetag sounds great!
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

Adrian in an average how much you spend? Your post is very useful because I am going to start looking for all my items ssince I already spent one month in my provisional apartment
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Adrian in an average how much you spend? Your post is very useful because I am going to start looking for all my items ssince I already spent one month in my provisional apartment
do you guys have like nothing in your apartments??? can just see ye eating out of bean tins cross legged on the floor :P
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

What do you mean? The apartment is rented unfurnished which means ... there's no furniture. Now, I have a chair but no beans ;)

How much did I spend ... check www.ikea.com/ch and price up what you need. It's a very individual thing and depends how much furniture you want, obviously.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

I've been to IKEA a few times and have been absolutely shell-shocked each time. While the accessories and small things are often cheap and quite fine, the furniture all looks, well, like IKEA furniture. Why not go to one of the many second hand shops (Brocki's) and take advantage of the free delivery? Fetag, as mentioned is a good choice, but I like to check the Heil's Armee (Salvation Army) at Erasmusplatz first. There's also a big Brocki opposite the Kaserne.

The furniture is of varying quality, but you can always find something interesting or charming, for less than the cost of IKEA, and much less stress.
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Re: Shopping at Ikea Basel (Pratteln)

My mum-in-law had us running all over town looking for things, never to a Brocki (it wasn't until joining the forum that I learned of those) and "always" to Fly, Otto and Conforama.

While the stuff at Fly seems pretty alright, the stuff at Otto and Conforama seems to be not-as-good as Ikea stuff and often costs more. The stuff at Fly was definitely a lot more than I was willing to spend on what it was BUT she'd wanted me to pick things out there as she had a credit card for them.

In the end, we went to Ikea (and keep going back there) because the furniture is quite inexpensive and while needing assembly at home, it LOOKS less cheap than the stuff at Otto and Conforama does.


We had things delivered from that Ikea in Pratteln... I'm not too keen on their delivery guys (they delivered in the rain, unloading all from truck to the street and making back-and-forth from there, even though it meant that some boxes got soaked through ) and wasn't so happy with the delivery cost (200chf) BUT as they had to carry it up many stairs, I really shouldn't begrudge them. (There is absolutely no way I could have helped carry that stuff at that time although hubby and I have lugged subsequent purchases up them ourselves.)
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My mum-in-law had us running all over town looking for things, never to a Brocki (it wasn't until joining the forum that I learned of those) and "always" to Fly, Otto and Conforama.

Yep, also, I was at Interio this weekend and they had some stuff identical to IKEA but more expensive (quality based really) .Then since I could not convince myself to go to IKEA for photo frames I ended up buying theirs (a bit more expensive only) only to find out that IKEA stuff is superior in quality to theirs...
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My mum-in-law had us running all over town looking for things, never to a Brocki (it wasn't until joining the forum that I learned of those) and "always" to Fly, Otto and Conforama.

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My mother in law had a heart attack when we bought a lovely solid wood piece at a brocki. She actually offered my husband to pay him for the item if we'd throw it out.

I think it is a cultural thing - you take on the stigma of being poor if you buy from a brocki. Poor or not, at least brockis have some very interesting things for less than in stores.
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1. Ask a friend with a van or big car to help me for beer money. I don't like taking advantage like that, and haven't been here long enough to have that kind of friendship with anyone. Plus I'd be pissed off if someone asked me to do that for them, so this was out.
I was sincere in my offer to use my car. Even without beer money. Anyway, the offer remains should you need similar help.
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I think it is a cultural thing - you take on the stigma of being poor if you buy from a brocki. ...
Which is odd really. Because you save so much by buying from a brocki that you've got more money, and so are richer.
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I keep on recommending this place, its called Megamobel in Binzen, Germany (about 10 mins from the border). The prices are good, quality reasonable and you get the full 19% tax back (no commissions to pay). Another good place in Germany is Mann Immobilien in Freiburg (about 40 min drive from the border).

Ikea is great for the odd item, but go too far and it starts to look tacky and ubiquitous i.e. every expat seems to have the same furniture as you
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