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Old 26.07.2010, 13:16
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Re: Burglary warning

Erm...I am not convinced it is a good idea to give detailed instructions on how to break into houses on a public forum.

Next you will be posting a step by step guide to safe cracking.
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From outside (my left/right comments relate to someone watching from the inside), stick a slim arm (or my arm holding a stick or anything thin and solid-ish) into the gap at the top, move arm as far down as possible (almost half way down) the right hand side, use stick to push lever from 12 o'clock to 9 o'clock position. This unlatches the bottom left of the window and the whole thing falls open.
Exactly. Mine would be very easy to open with a bent rod (or a small arm). The windows don't have to be closed all the way, but just a tad more than when they are at full tilt, in order to turn the handle from 12 to 9 so that they just swing open. Glad I'm on the 4th floor, which I hope helps at least somewhat.

Opening these windows must be lesson 1A in Swiss burglar school.
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Erm...I am not convinced it is a good idea to give detailed instructions on how to break into houses on a public forum.

Next you will be posting a step by step guide to safe cracking.
I don't think we have anything to fear from a burglar who gets his tips from EF!
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Re: Burglary warning

I just wrote in an other thread that i love the safety in Switzerland...
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Old 26.07.2010, 19:38
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Re: Burglary warning

many years ago, I locked myself out of my flat with the front door slam shut. I borrowed a ladder so I could get up to my window on the first floor, and then with a clothes line, I managed to make a noose and get around the window grip, and I did manage to get the window opened, so I could get in.

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many years ago, I locked myself out of my flat with the front door slam shut. I borrowed a ladder so I could get up to my window on the first floor, and then with a clothes line, I managed to make a noose and get around the window grip, and I did manage to get the window opened, so I could get in.

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Good idea. Now I see how a line could be used even more easily than a rod to open these windows... point seems to be that you should not consider them to offer any security when on tilt.
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Re: Burglary warning

I also live on the ground floor and have just checked how easy it is to open the windows from tilt to regular hinge. Lets just say alarmingly Thankfully when i'm out i always leave the shutters down but, granted open. Incidentally i don't leave them open through night, I f-ing hate things with more then four legs. Just spoken to a neighbour who does leave there window tilted and shutters up through night. They'd not heard anything around where we are but, prevention being better than cure said would drop their shutter too and to pass on thanks for the heads up. I therefore cordially do.
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Old 26.07.2010, 23:57
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Re: Burglary warning

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Well, your idea seems to be that this knowledge is best left to the burglars. I, however, believe people need to know if they have easy-to-open windows so they can take other measures, such as shutting them completely, locking the levers in place, or closing the shutters.
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Well, your idea seems to be that this knowledge is best left to the burglars. I, however, believe people need to know if they have easy-to-open windows so they can take other measures, such as shutting them completely, locking the levers in place, or closing the shutters.

Or getting a dog. I feel very safe knowing they can sense trouble.
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Old 27.07.2010, 00:49
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Re: Burglary warning

That would be a great solution; unfortunately I don't like the idea of anything/anyone being totally reliant on me; so pets are out. As are boyfriends who can't cope on their own sometimes.

I guess I'm just not very dependable :) I like to view it as being a free spirit who doesn't like to be tied down but I think the former is probably more accurate!
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Old 27.07.2010, 01:00
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Re: Burglary warning

The first thing I realized when I arrived here was that there were no bars on windows on the ground and first floor apartments. I was shocked...and happy at the same time

In my country, you can find sometime bars on windows on the 5th floor...but it's actually due to some people will climb that high to steal things when the owners are sleeping. Specially in summer, when at 23hours, you still have 30-32 degrees and need that breeze to help you getting sleep.
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Old 27.07.2010, 05:11
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nope, they ramsacked the guys home office, but only took things that would fit in pockets etc, so left his laptops, tv, bluray player etc etc.

thinking someone couldn't fit through the gap is exactly why they got burgled!!
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Maybe it was a trained ferret.
LOL! May be it was a trained little monkey like in the movie Monkey Trouble! LOL! They trained him on what things to pick up and how to recognize money and everything, as long as it was small stuff.

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Old 27.07.2010, 05:15
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Exactly. Mine would be very easy to open with a bent rod (or a small arm). The windows don't have to be closed all the way, but just a tad more than when they are at full tilt, in order to turn the handle from 12 to 9 so that they just swing open. Glad I'm on the 4th floor, which I hope helps at least somewhat.

Opening these windows must be lesson 1A in Swiss burglar school.
That's why I like living on at least the second floor in apartments.
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Old 27.07.2010, 06:48
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Re: Burglary warning

you mentioned a 'pro child' which i take to mean as in the case of my flat's attempted burglary several years ago...

my wife and i were in the living room watching tv one afternoon (think it was a sunday) and had the back balcony doors wide open. we hear the scrunching of someone walking around the rock garden and a kid about 15 or 16 walks up our balcony and starts to walk in the apartment. i jump up and said ' hey wtf!' and he gave me an 'excusez-moi' story about he mistook the apartment for 'his grandmother's'. he did a good acting job and apologized profusely and backed out. i watched him walk across the garden and hop the fence. so i got my dander up and put on my shoes and went after him with my wife. took the camera and thought at least i'd get his face for the police. he headed down towards the lake and as we walked around the olympic park looking for him, a police office came up and asked if we had seen anyone like him. we told him what had just happened to us and he said that he hit another apartment on the way down, coincidentally, a collegue of my wife. they got him and we id'd him in the police van. apparently what they do is get a car full of kids and drop them off someplace above a neighborhood, let them scurry through grabbing petty stuff from open or unlocked doors and windows, then meet up with the driver down the road and take off. if i had know that, i would have realized that we walked right past the pick-up car, sitting down the road with two guys in it and one seemed to be trying over and over to make a call.

also, someone told me a 'trick' to help alleviate theft is to keep your change jar near the front door, that way if someone pops in to grab something, likely they will go for the change jar and hopefully nothing else. and maybe you will hear it jingle as he nabs it. and don't keep your wallet or purse near the front door!
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Old 27.07.2010, 10:32
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Well, your idea seems to be that this knowledge is best left to the burglars. I, however, believe people need to know if they have easy-to-open windows so they can take other measures, such as shutting them completely, locking the levers in place, or closing the shutters.

You could just say, it is easy to break in, this is how I would solve the problem without posting a complete A-Z on how to do it.

I could post, "how to make a bomb in 10 easy steps" but I don't think it's sensible, I would prefer that information stay with the bomb makers and limit the potential number of terrorists.
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Re: Burglary warning

I thought I'd revive this thread to ask if anyone has heard about any burglaries recently. An acquaintance thinks someone tried to break into her apartment last night while she and her husband were sleeping, a bit out of town.

I've heard--and read in the other threads about burglary--that these happen in rashes and that fall/ winter tends to be the burglary season.

But I've also heard some things that weren't in the other threads: buildings housing a lot of "foreigners" are targeted, many apartments in the same building are burgled at the same time, and the burglars work in teams watching buildings in advance and leaving each other signals such as markings on postboxes, empty cans on windowsills, etc. Are these other things just urban legends?

A few times in the last couple of weeks, I've come home to find one or two of our building's postbox doors open, and I had a suspicious feeling about it right away. And a month or so ago, I got the distinct impression that someone was on our balcony at night (even though we're on the first floor). Are there particular neighborhoods that are particularly vulnerable?

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If you buy at the Brockenhaus and shop at Aldi you won't have any problems.
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Old 26.04.2011, 14:21
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If you buy at the Brockenhaus and shop at Aldi you won't have any problems.
Frankly, it's my cat I'm most worried about. We were burgled once in the States and it's not an experience I'd like to re-live.
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Old 26.04.2011, 14:22
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If you buy at the Brockenhaus and shop at Aldi you won't have any problems.
Why, do potential burglars follow people to the shops?
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Old 26.04.2011, 14:33
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If you buy at the Brockenhaus and shop at Aldi you won't have any problems.
I'd have thought that if you buy at the Brockenhaus then you own goods with a proven second hand value. Quite useful for your average robber.
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