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Old 24.08.2010, 16:21
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Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

I am going for the weekend to Italy by train, and there is a possibility for me to buy a nice bike there.

If I come by train with the bike on the bikes compartment ( I am not sure it there is such a thing on the Cisalpino though ), would I get taxed or have to declare the bike ?

please halp !
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Old 24.08.2010, 16:24
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

Why not get one of these green forms for VAT return, and pay the swiss tax and get the Italian VAT back ?

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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

Well, before the thread turns into a "should you / shouldn't you" discussion re tax....the simple answer is that it is highly unlikely that a bike not in a box that has been ridden will be spotted as a new purchase by any guards you meet, so i'm sure it'll be fine......but if its not assembled etc, you probably will be

Up to you if you feel ok about skipping tax though
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

I have never seen officers looking for taxable goods on the few times I have taken the Cisalpino...but second poster has a point, you might get a hefty sum back if you claim Italian VAT back ...19% right?
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

SL - I'm pretty sure the Cisalpino trains (despite having a small bike section, with hooks and a bike sticker on the window) don't allow bikes on. I know this having been chucked off when trying to get on at Arth Goldau.....

Not sure about the likelihood of getting hit for tax although I would imagine that if you rode across the border at a well chosen place then you're unlikely to get stopped.
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Old 24.08.2010, 17:14
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

the bike is not new so no Italian VAT

another option is to jump out of the train in Como and come to Lugano by bike and then take the normal train
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

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I am going for the weekend to Italy by train, and there is a possibility for me to buy a nice bike there.

If I come by train with the bike on the bikes compartment ( I am not sure it there is such a thing on the Cisalpino though ), would I get taxed or have to declare the bike ?

please halp !
I gather it is a second hand bike?
I don't know where you are coming from in Italy and your destination to in Switzerland get off the train in Como and ride it through the border and get back on in Chiasso.

If you really had a problem there is a house on the border near Chiasso.
The lounge is in Italy and the kitchen in Switzerland.
The family charge 1% "family tax" to bring stuff through their house. The house must be priceless.
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Re: Bring a bike by train from Italy, would I get taxed ?

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I am going for the weekend to Italy by train, and there is a possibility for me to buy a nice bike there.

If I come by train with the bike on the bikes compartment ( I am not sure it there is such a thing on the Cisalpino though ), would I get taxed or have to declare the bike ?

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A) Buy the "Velo-Vignette" here in Switzerland BEFORE departing, and then place it onto your new bike
B) take some nice labels (airline, hotel, holiday resort) with you and decorate the new bike
C) most important, UNPACK the new bike and use if for a few kilometers in Italy.

By these steps it becomes "used personal belonging" and nobody can demand proof that you bought it in Switzerland.
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