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Old 17.09.2010, 12:18
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Swiss National Hymn

This caught my eye, the foreigners in the Government are singing the Swiss National Hymn, from 1841, better,

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/standard/Nationalhymne-Eingebuergert-singt-besser/story/28770509

sung with German text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Wgto7__-c&feature=related

sung with French text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7FEvaBMXoI&feature=related

first verse only, loosely translated into English
Seeing the red dawning skies,
Reflected in the shining lake,
You, Lord of Glory
If the Alpine snow reddens,
Pray, Free Swiss, pray.
Your pious soul suspects:
God in the noble Fatherland!
God, the Lord, the noble country!

text in Schwyzerdütsch

Trittst im Morgenrot daher,
Seh' ich dich im Strahlenmeer,
Dich, du Hocherhabener, Herrlicher!
Wenn der Alpen Firn sich rötet,
Betet, freie Schweizer, betet.
Eure fromme Seele ahnt
Gott im hehren Vaterland!
Gott, den Herrn, im hehren Vaterland!

text in French Swiss
Sur nos monts, quand le soleil
Annonce un brillant réveil,
Et prédit d'un plus beau jour le retour.
Les beautés de la patrie
Parlent ŕ l'âme attendrie;
Au ciel montent plus joyeux (bis)
Les accents d'un cœur pieux,
Les accents émus d'un cœur pieux.
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Re: Swiss National Hymn

Shame on me, but I actually don't know the lyrics of my National Hymn...

But now, I'm Genevan and, as kid I learnt to sing the "A la belle Escalade" which is a song related an event that took place in the year 1602.

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Re: Swiss National Hymn

The voting is coming up for the ministers to the national government, maybe we should all start practising. At the beginning it sounds like our "God shave the Queen"!
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Re: Swiss National Hymn

For some reason whenever I try to remember how this goes, my mind immediately turns it into the theme tune from "Open All Hours".

Ironic, somehow.
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Good grief, this "related video" on Youtube is hilarious. I think the valaisans are the Newfies of Switzerland.

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Shame on me, but I actually don't know the lyrics of my National Hymn...

But now, I'm Genevan and, as kid I learnt to sing the "A la belle Escalade" which is a song related an event that took place in the year 1602.

Unlike the Spanish one, where I've actually memorized all seven verses.

La la la la la
La la la la la
La la la la la
etc.

(although apparently only the first and third are sung these days, with the fourth being banned, so be careful how you pronounce la la la)
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This caught my eye, the foreigners in the Government are singing the Swiss National Hymn, from 1841, better,

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/standard/Nationalhymne-Eingebuergert-singt-besser/story/28770509

sung with German text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Wgto7__-c&feature=related

sung with French text
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7FEvaBMXoI&feature=related

first verse only, loosely translated into English
Seeing the red dawning skies,
Reflected in the shining lake,
You, Lord of Glory
If the Alpine snow reddens,
Pray, Free Swiss, pray.
Your pious soul suspects:
God in the noble Fatherland!
God, the Lord, the noble country!

text in Schwyzerdütsch

Trittst im Morgenrot daher,
Seh' ich dich im Strahlenmeer,
Dich, du Hocherhabener, Herrlicher!
Wenn der Alpen Firn sich rötet,
Betet, freie Schweizer, betet.
Eure fromme Seele ahnt
Gott im hehren Vaterland!
Gott, den Herrn, im hehren Vaterland!

text in French Swiss
Sur nos monts, quand le soleil
Annonce un brillant réveil,
Et prédit d'un plus beau jour le retour.
Les beautés de la patrie
Parlent ŕ l'âme attendrie;
Au ciel montent plus joyeux (bis)
Les accents d'un cœur pieux,
Les accents émus d'un cœur pieux.
__________________________________________
I still prefer the old anthem which was official until my 4th school year and is defacto still THE anthem


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Re: Swiss National Hymn

Since somebody else started a thread on this subject, I can ask this question which has puzzled me. I've also looked up information on the Swiss national anthem, and I've discovered not only is there an English translation, but the words I find are almost always the same:

When the morning skies grow red,
and over us their radiance shed
Thou, O Lord, appeareth in their light
when the alps glow bright with splendor,
pray to God, to Him surrender
for you feel and understand
that He dwelleth in this land.

In the sunset Thou art night
and beyond the starry sky
Thou, O loving father, ever near,
when to Heaven we are departing
joy and bliss Thou'lt be imparting
for we feel and understand
that Thou dwellest in this land.

When dark clouds enshroud the hills
and gray mist the valley fills
yet Thou art not hidden from thy sons
pierce the gloom in which we cower
with Thy sunshine's cleansing power
then we'll feel and understand
that God dwelleth in this land.


Some sources have described these as "official" lyrics. Obviously they can't be official since English isn't an official language of Switzerland, but I wonder if there are occasions where the Swiss Hymn is sung in English...
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Since somebody else started a thread on this subject, I can ask this question which has puzzled me. I've also looked up information on the Swiss national anthem, and I've discovered not only is there an English translation, but the words I find are almost always the same:

When the morning skies grow red,
and over us their radiance shed
Thou, O Lord, appeareth in their light
when the alps glow bright with splendor,
pray to God, to Him surrender
for you feel and understand
that He dwelleth in this land.

In the sunset Thou art night
and beyond the starry sky
Thou, O loving father, ever near,
when to Heaven we are departing
joy and bliss Thou'lt be imparting
for we feel and understand
that Thou dwellest in this land.

When dark clouds enshroud the hills
and gray mist the valley fills
yet Thou art not hidden from thy sons
pierce the gloom in which we cower
with Thy sunshine's cleansing power
then we'll feel and understand
that God dwelleth in this land.


Some sources have described these as "official" lyrics. Obviously they can't be official since English isn't an official language of Switzerland, but I wonder if there are occasions where the Swiss Hymn is sung in English...

Sung in English ? For instance on 1st August in CH embassies and consulates in English speaking countries around the globe.

"Official" means approved by the Federal government (their specialists) as being correct. Official versions as I know exist also at least in Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic and Turkish.

But if you mention the Star Spangled Banner, whenever in the presentation of Whitney Houston

http://www.myvideo.ch/watch/5069835/...nner_USA_Hymne

is quite nice (even if I will never understand why the voices of US announcers when talking about their national anthem get over the top), I prefer the "National March" Stars and Stripes of Souza

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znEePD1nJxo

while two beautiful anthems of course are those of Algeria and Lebanon

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10...al-anthem_news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp5MPypQPZM

Quite nice also is this one, even if not really "national" but the one of the PCI

http://folk.ntnu.no/makarov/temporar...ionale-it1.mp3

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Re: Swiss National Hymn

They're all saying basically the same things, these anthems do don't they. All a little ridiculous too.
I'd say its the tune, the music which makes some more popular than others.

For the Swiss anthem I'd say they should lighten up the tune a bit. It is so so so heavy, like huge mountain trolls walking up a steep hill!!! Boum...boum...boumm!!!
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They're all saying basically the same things, these anthems do don't they. All a little ridiculous too.
I'd say its the tune, the music which makes some more popular than others.

For the Swiss anthem I'd say they should lighten up the tune a bit. It is so so so heavy, like huge mountain trolls walking up a steep hill!!! Boum...boum...boumm!!!
The texts of most of these anthems indeed are even extremely ridiculous, and are kitschig to the uttermost. If bad almost bloodthirsty and instigitative to general suicide.

But many of the melodies are quite good, like the Marseillaise (even if the text is WWI vintage ! )

The CH anthem IS far too heavy a melody and simply ought to be replaced.

I above gave the examples of Algeria and Lebanon, who simply arranged their version of the Marseillaise, while the Jordanian Anthem

shows its actual origin (UK) very clearly, and also should get replaced, even if King Abdullah II is half (80% really) Brit
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yes they all drag their feet. One breathes a sigh of relief when it's over!
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They're all saying basically the same things, these anthems do don't they. All a little ridiculous too.
I'd say its the tune, the music which makes some more popular than others.

For the Swiss anthem I'd say they should lighten up the tune a bit. It is so so so heavy, like huge mountain trolls walking up a steep hill!!! Boum...boum...boumm!!!
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Since somebody else started a thread on this subject, I can ask this question which has puzzled me. I've also looked up information on the Swiss national anthem, and I've discovered not only is there an English translation, but the words I find are almost always the same.

Some sources have described these as "official" lyrics. Obviously they can't be official since English isn't an official language of Switzerland, but I wonder if there are occasions where the Swiss Hymn is sung in English...
When the morning skies grow red,
and over us their radiance shed
Thou, O Lord, appeareth in their light
when the alps glow bright with splendor,
pray to God, to Him surrender
for you feel and understand
that He dwelleth in this land.

In the sunset Thou art night
and beyond the starry sky
Thou, O loving father, ever near,
when to Heaven we are departing
joy and bliss Thou'lt be imparting
for we feel and understand
that Thou dwellest in this land.

When dark clouds enshroud the hills
and gray mist the valley fills
yet Thou art not hidden from thy sons
pierce the gloom in which we cower
with Thy sunshine's cleansing power
then we'll feel and understand
that God dwelleth in this land.


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So folks, this song will be sung all over Switzerland on Friday 1st August,
time to get in the mood, and learn the words?

The music is dreary, a bit like the UK "God save the Queen"
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The music is dreary, a bit like the UK "God save the Queen"
... unlike the old national anthem...



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So folks, this song will be sung all over Switzerland on Friday 1st August,
time to get in the mood, and learn the words?

The music is dreary, a bit like the UK "God save the Queen"
Trust me I'm not saying this to suck up to Wolli, but anybody who thinks the melody to "God Save The Queen/America/Heil dir Helvetia" is dreary hasn't heard it played correctly.
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Trust me I'm not saying this to suck up to Wolli, but anybody who thinks the melody to "God Save The Queen/America/Heil dir Helvetia" is dreary hasn't heard it played correctly.
or been to an England rugger game.

(lthough you've got to hand it to the Welsh, they know how to sing "Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi" with proper passion)
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I still prefer the old anthem which was official until my 4th school year and is defacto still THE anthem
It is a beautiful melody, and I wouldn't mind terribly if "America" (a.k.a. "My Country Tis of Thee") were to replace "The Star-Spangled Banner" as the national anthem. When I was in kindergarten, we had to sing "America" before class started. I'm sure they picked that song because it's much easier melody to sing than TS-SB.
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Re: Swiss National Hymn

Maybe it's simply an official translation, because as I read those words while listening to the anthem sung in German, it doesn't quite match the rhythm---but the words read well as a poem.
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the Swiss national hymn resembles something

I recently discovered what the Swiss national hymn reminds me of !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU8cPuj-UHY Santa lucia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Wgto7__-c the Swiss hymn


listen to the first two sentences, an amazing resemblance !

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Re: the Swiss national hymn resembles something

I always thought the first few bars sound like "Happy birthday to you" .
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