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Old 18.09.2010, 08:16
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

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I am not American. I grew up in Denmark. The long standing tradition there is "burning the witches". The neighborhood gets together in a community park (or more traditionally the beach) and builds a great big bonfire with big witch dolls on top and witch screamers (firecrackers that scream like witches as they go off) cleverly placed inside. Usually a song or two is sung together. Kids dress up and eat some sweets while the adults drink Tuborg and Carlsberg all night.
Whereas in England, we celebrate the foiling of a Catholic plot to overthrow the King, by burning, in effigy, one of the conspirators. On the 5th of November.

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Old 18.09.2010, 10:52
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

I don't have kids, and really don't care if people celebrate Halloween or not, but reading this thread is really effing depressing!

It's one night people. one night where Swiss children would not have to go to bed at sundown after watching their nightly cheese documentary, only to wake up before sunrise, light up a smoke, and contemplate why they should bother to get out of bed. It's no wonder that the European versions are limited to egg throwing and graffiti, I'd be angry too if I knew I was going to develop into some miserable bastard who hates the thought of children knocking on their door.

In California many people, including myself, celebrate a holiday called Cinco de Mayo. We break open piņatas, dance to Ranchero music, drink margaritas, Mexican beer, and tequila shots. What is this holiday about? I have no clue, but I am not sweating the details. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the 5th of May. So why do we celebrate it? because it is fun. Much more fun than May 4th or 6th. Lighten up people.
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Old 18.09.2010, 10:54
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What's the deal with being mean on Halloween, I've never seen this, or heard of it till now!!??...
Of course not. Welcome to Europe. We have far older traditions and celebrations.
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Old 18.09.2010, 11:09
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I don't have kids, and really don't care if people celebrate Halloween or not, but reading this thread is really effing depressing!
It's not so much a question of celebrating Halloween - when I was a kid in the UK we did this with something akin to bonfire night (except no fireworks). It was a fire, ducking for apples, toasting chestnuts etc etc and yes, dressing up as witches.

It's how it's celebrated and what it's turned into.

In the USA this was turned into trick or treat where the witches were joined by children dressed as fairies, spacemen, and spiderman. A travesty of what All Hallows Night was about.

I hate it .
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Old 18.09.2010, 11:13
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I don't have kids, and really don't care if people celebrate Halloween or not, but reading this thread is really effing depressing!

It's one night people. one night where Swiss children would not have to go to bed at sundown after watching their nightly cheese documentary, only to wake up before sunrise, light up a smoke, and contemplate why they should bother to get out of bed. It's no wonder that the European versions are limited to egg throwing and graffiti, I'd be angry too if I knew I was going to develop into some miserable bastard who hates the thought of children knocking on their door.

In California many people, including myself, celebrate a holiday called Cinco de Mayo. We break open piņatas, dance to Ranchero music, drink margaritas, Mexican beer, and tequila shots. What is this holiday about? I have no clue, but I am not sweating the details. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the 5th of May. So why do we celebrate it? because it is fun. Much more fun than May 4th or 6th. Lighten up people.
We have plenty of traditions and celebrations here already. See above.

Haven't you done enough damage with Krispy Kreme and Starbucks already?
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

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Are you in the USA?

- Yes: do it
- No: don't do it

Any occurrence of such shenanigans in Europe has been imported from the land of armed bears.

It isn't cute: it's plain irritating
What he said, we don't need yet another commercial event that aims at parents giving their kids the kind of stuff that will make them fat. Sweets are not "treats", they are just a food group.

We also have a law against something called "Hausfriedensbruch" here, basically it's when someone bothers you on your property against your wishes. Just saying...
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Old 18.09.2010, 12:19
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Is it weird if I am dressed up too?
It depends what you dress up as.

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Whereas in England, we celebrate the foiling of a Catholic plot to overthrow the King, by burning, in effigy, one of the conspirators. On the 5th of November.
Which is odd given he was hanged, drawn and quartered.

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Old 18.09.2010, 12:31
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

I went to a Halloween party last year in Basel.

Basically all the people were the parents of kids at the international school and they had organised the event internally.

Everyone dressed up and all the kids went to "Known" locations with a parent so they didn't 'annoy the Swiss'.

The kids had a great time, scored big time with sweets etc., nobody was bothered...... and when the kids went to bed we got royally drunk.

Good times.

I would suggest something similar. Wherever your kids go to school, see if other parents would be interested in participating, and in true Swiss style hold a more 'organised' event.

The kids really don't need to be exposed to miserable people who have a moral objection to this. Also knowing that most people won't be prepared for this, it's best not to push the point.

Personally, any excuse for a party is a good idea if everyone's having a great time.
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Old 18.09.2010, 14:19
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

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Of course not. Welcome to Europe. We have far older traditions and celebrations.
Where do you think I am from? SCANDINAVIA!!! Lovely place
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Old 18.09.2010, 14:28
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

Of course it's great that everyone on here is expressing their feelings about Halloween...

But sticking to the original question, I just wanted to know if the Swiss celebrated Halloween? How they do it? etc. It seems like most nations do something based on the same holiday. I lived in the US for 1 year and didn't see any tricking there... but whatever... I wish I could take down the "trick or treat" part because that's more or less a meaningless phrase that everyone knows (or so I thought)

Anyway, I also don't see any of these negative traits in the Swiss as mentioned. Almost all of my friends are Swiss and very happy and polite about it.(I asked 2 about it today, they celebrate some times just to dress up with their kids, but it's not more than an excuse for fun). So I say a few sour ones shouldn't cast such a negative reflection on the Swiss community about receiving kids at their door.
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

As someone already mentioned, the closest I guess one gets to Halloween here is the Rabelichtli Umzug/Parade -which is very pretty to see depending if you can catch all the kids coming out at once with their turnips. But alas, no candy. Though in my area they serve intoxicating wine to the parents before they parade around in the (sometimes freezing) cold.

The funny thing is that in some of the kids crafting / toy catalogues you get in the post they include some Halloween type stuff (paper Jack-o-Lantern cuts outs, spiders..). So somewhere (maybe in the deep dark heart of the Appenzel?) someone is brewing up a great Halloween party.

Having said that, last year out of the blue the family living behind us (extra-mega-Swiss!), the daughters rang our bell for trick or treat. We were totally taken by surprise and started digging around the house for something to give them.
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they celebrate some times just to dress up with their kids, but it's not more than an excuse for fun.
Swiss? Dressing up for fun?

Never!



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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

So pleased I live on the second floor and we can turn the door bell off. The last thing I want is a bunch of vile parents and children trying to push their fattening customs onto me.
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Of course not. Welcome to Europe. We have far older traditions and celebrations.
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Which is odd given he was hanged, drawn and quartered...
Mind you, he were lucky. He managed to get his neck broken by the hanging, so was dead before the rest of it. The bonfire tradition comes from the celebrations of the foiling of the plot. The burning of the guy came straight from the usual pagan sources.
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Which is odd given he was hanged, drawn and quartered.

Cheers,
Nick
To be fair we did try that one year. It upset the kids though .
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Whereas in England, we celebrate the foiling of a Catholic plot to overthrow the King, by burning, in effigy, one of the conspirators. On the 5th of November.

A thought occurs. Would we be able to bring our tradition to Switzerland? Big bonfire and massive fireworks all done in the back garden?

Probably not. I'm just sayin .......
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Which is odd given he was hanged, drawn and quartered.

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So you don't think that the fire is symbolic re the way he was trying to get rid of the HoP?
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Personally I really can't stand Halloween. As a parent I really can't understand why parents would want to encourage their kids to go round and basically threaten people into giving them sweets.
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What's the deal with being mean on Halloween, I've never seen this, or heard of it till now!!?? It's certainly not my parenting. Yes, please don't encourage your children to do this.
You honestly think children saying "Trick or Treat!" is a threat? When they're accompanied by their PARENTS? I can understand if native Swiss or ex-patriates from other parts of Europe don't like Halloween, but that doesn't mean that the kids who do so are practising extortion.

If you don't want to be a part of this, then either don't answer your door, or politely tell the children that you don't celebrate Halloween.
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Re: Can I "trick or treat" on Halloween?

well in Neuchatel , my daughter was alone to do it ...still got few lollies in Vevey last year she did not dare to do anything ,invited few friends over and had an horror movie session
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