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View Poll Results: How do you like your daily life as a non-native Swiss in Switzerland?
Hate it. 20 6.78%
More -ve than +ve / Don't really like it. 50 16.95%
Neutral : no better or worse than elsewhere. 36 12.20%
More +ve than -ve / Quite like it here. 96 32.54%
Love it. 93 31.53%
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Old 06.11.2010, 19:15
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I have no strong feelings one way or another. Life gets pretty monotonous with small children, UK/Swiss same/same. I have no idea whether switzerland is boring or not for this reason.

My routine in Swiz is exactly the same as it was in the UK, I do the housework, go to the park, do the shopping blah blah blah

The only negative I have experienced is the dirty looks on the bus sometimes from people who click that you are not Swiss but I don't really give a toss.
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Old 06.11.2010, 21:42
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

After 8 years here, this is my home. With all its faults and annoyances, I don't want to live anywhere else. I guess that's love.
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I love it for the beauty of nature, and the peace. I live in a Cul-de-sac surrounded by forests on 3 sides, with a pond outside my window, and a fountain gurgling a nonstop supply of fresh water. Today, I watched the sunset and a blaze of warm orange light lit up all the fall colors of the trees. The whole place lit up in a way I don't ever recall electricity being able to match. Here, I can turn off the ruckus of the whole ridiculous world at will.

When I want something more cosmopolitan, Paris is about 5 hours away. Went I want something more easy going, the Mediterannean is about 5 hours away. Between shopping trips to France, Italy, and the Internet, I could get most everything I want. Thank God for the Internet. I don't think I could have done this otherwise.

But the part that I really lack the most, which may be the part that is most important for me, is that I really miss my family, and the friends I love, who I left behind. That can't be replaced, and I'm not even going to try.
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Old 13.12.2010, 10:28
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

A few years ago my answer would have been very different.

Now I had to even think whether I am a "non-native Swiss" or not!!!
Seriously though, independent life here is brilliant and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else at the moment.
Love it - especially at this snowy time of year!
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Old 13.12.2010, 10:36
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

After 2 weeks back in Canada, I am glad to be back, do feel it's home here and love it. The one thing I miss are the Canadian people (namely the women). Many dress down all the time, yet are absolutely beautiful. They smile, they talk to you any time any place--total strangers. Can't go far in public without meeting another beautiful girl who initiated the contact. That and the great cheap shopping.

Other than those points, I'm glad to be back in ZH, and hopefully up in the mountains soon.
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Old 16.12.2010, 09:45
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I love it, but I live in Ticino (for more than 20 years).

Don't think I'd love it if I still lived up north, as a recent trip to Zurich reminded me (lived there for 4, it was OK, but glad I moved south).

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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

Had a mad, passionate love affair with Israel and no, Switzerland doesn't compare but over the years have become very affectionate towards Switzerland - more like the cosy, comfortable, relationship of an old married couple than an affair beween young lovers
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I absolutely love it - and yet at times I hate some aspects of it. The same as I absolutely loved my adopted/adoptive country, England, for most of my life - but in a different way.
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Old 16.12.2010, 11:43
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I studied in Switzerland 3,5 years, and mostly hated it.
Everything was boring.
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

I do not live in Switzerland but I have been to Switzerland once, back in 1997, for two weeks, but we also went to Germany and Austria, but mainly Switzerland. Being of meticulous nature and having a passion for history, culture and art, Switzerland appealed to me immensely. I have traveled a lot and stayed extend-idly in over a dozen countries in different hemispheres and I must say that if one finds peace within themselves, they will attract and find that peace where ever they are and if they don't they probably won't.
With so many hundreds of thousands trying to get to America, I have been "over it" for a couple decades and my hopes are to settle in either Switzerland or Austria. I have many musician friends in Vienna and they love it there. They say that as a musician, I will always have work.
Please don't flame me or write mean stuff if I exceeded the proper forum structure on this one, just ramblin' I guess, my apologies.
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Old 27.05.2015, 09:40
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I studied in Switzerland 3,5 years, and mostly hated it.
Everything was boring.
Why groan the guy- he hated it- that's fine- Switzerland (hmm no country) is for everyone... I would have groaned perhaps had he made sweeping comments about the people- as I truly believe there is good and bad and in-between everywhere. I cannot fathom how anyone could find such a beautiful country totally boring- but that's his problem- glad he (or she) found total and absolute happiness elsewhere Now, where is that stranger? How come you've dragged yourself here to tell us about it now? Never been a member here and it is your first post?! What on earth is the point of that?
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Old 27.05.2015, 10:00
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Everything was boring.
This thought has been discussed on here before. Many times!
The Swiss admit it themselves. There are even large posters warning newcomers.

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Old 27.05.2015, 10:09
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

You can even go to a shop I buy your own machine to generate some bore.

My life is so exciting I have over a half a dozen of these boremachines in order to ensure my Swiss neighbours don't get jealous of my exciting existence
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

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Why groan the guy- he hated it- that's fine- Switzerland (hmm no country) is for everyone... I would have groaned perhaps had he made sweeping comments about the people- as I truly believe there is good and bad and in-between everywhere. I cannot fathom how anyone could find such a beautiful country totally boring- but that's his problem- glad he (or she) found total and absolute happiness elsewhere Now, where is that stranger? How come you've dragged yourself here to tell us about it now? Never been a member here and it is your first post?! What on earth is the point of that?
i groaned because its a dumb useless little post that necroes a thread of several years old. since its his first post it seems like he has made an account for the sole purpose of complaining in the lamest way possible about how shitty his time here was.
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I studied in Switzerland 3,5 years, and mostly hated it.
Everything was boring.
But why are you still here, and still complaining? Please go back home to where your life will no doubt be more interesting.
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Re: Switzerland: Love it or Hate it? (version 2)

to paraphrase Andreas Thiel, the Swiss are extremely polite but it is not meant to be taken personally - that foreigners like Switzerland results from a simple misunderstanding.



our whole family absolutely adores Switzerland, and we are back as often as we can be. it is without question, however, the most difficult country in western Europe for a foreign, white, Anglo-Saxon, protestant male to move to and live in. I suspect it is even more difficult for an individual who does not fit into any one of the aforementioned categories.
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to paraphrase Andreas Thiel, the Swiss are extremely polite but it is not meant to be taken personally - that foreigners like Switzerland results from a simple misunderstanding.



our whole family absolutely adores Switzerland, and we are back as often as we can be. it is without question, however, the most difficult country in western Europe [..] to move to and live in. I suspect it is even more difficult for an individual who does not fit into any one of the aforementioned categories.
How so? What makes it that difficult?
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How so? What makes it that difficult?
firstly, bear in mind of course that "THAT difficult" relative to other western European countries is the very definition of "First World Problems".



1. it is expensive. as in a multiple of the living cost of other destinations in western Europe.

2. it is, by and large, culturally homogeneous and, more importantly, culturally distinct. in comparison to Germany, France, Belgium or even Luxembourg, Switzerland offers just about 10% as much in terms of cultural diversity of foods and leisure activities. that doesn't mean that Switzerland doesn't offer great food and great opportunities for leisure, it just means that the range of offerings is much smaller.

3. it is horribly nationalistic. this can also be a huge plus (no flag jokes intended), of course, but it can be rather overbearing for a foreigner. even an American foreigner.

4. in the German-speaking part, it is proud and protective to a fault of its dialects. save for Paris, nowhere else in western Europe will you consistently meet people who speak one or more foreign languages but absolutely refuse to do so.

5. anti-foreigner sentiment is open, public and unapologetic. yes, the same sentiments (and worse) exist elsewhere in western Europe, but it is much less public and much less well-received in the media and on the street.

6. there is not a single place in the country to purchase a proper Tex-Mex margarita with sea salt on the rim of the glass.

now, having written the above - I chose (and continue to choose) to see the positive in all of it. Switzerland has a national identity like no other country in western Europe, and offers the most life-expanding opportunities for the foreigners who choose to stick with it and make a go at "integration". I can buy great German beer and get a legitimate German meal in literally thousands of places in the US, but can only enjoy a cold Feldi and an olma brat with brotli in Switzerland. I absolutely adore the dialects, even though it completely stilts my learning of standard German and is met with disdain anywhere else in the German-speaking part of Europe.

as with anything in life, there is no gain without pain, right?
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Old 27.05.2015, 14:02
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1. it is expensive. as in a multiple of the living cost of other destinations in western Europe.
You've never been to Scandinavia, Corsica, or Trieste, have you?

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