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time and distance map

does anyone know of a time/distance map of zurich.

what i'm trying to do is calculate all points within a certain time away from a given location e.g. HB using public transport. this is with a view to finding potential locations which may be geographically distant, but 'close' in terms of travel time.
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Re: time and distance map

I've no idea about a map with time on etc, but I'd recommend looking at the first stops on any IR (long distance) train routes running through HB...

Looking at the routes on here should help.

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Re: time and distance map

You can somehow get this through Google maps by selecting your starting point , your transportation method and then dragging the destination point around the map. Works with car as well as public transports.
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does anyone know of a time/distance map of zurich.

what i'm trying to do is calculate all points within a certain time away from a given location e.g. HB using public transport. this is with a view to finding potential locations which may be geographically distant, but 'close' in terms of travel time.

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these two maps give you an idea, BUT most depends on YOUR ability (knowledge, experience, flexiblity) to use the services efficiently. If using the system badly you need an hour for everything, if knowing the area in and out, if knowing the system, and if being ready to adapt to changing things, you can by using public transport, beat a potential heli service


take Schaffhausen as example. While there are heaps of trains from Schaffhausen Bahnhof to Zürich HB, if you get accross the Rhein and at Feuerthalen Bahnhof catch the S16, you have a direct train to Bhf Stadelhofen
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Re: time and distance map

I have seen such a thing on the interwebs - I can't remember now whether it was for Zurich and I wished they had made one for all of Switzerland, or whether it was for all of Switzerland and I wished they had made one for Zurich.

More to the point I can't remember what site it was on. Have tried to find it several times since then, no joy.

Maybe someone else will know...
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Re: time and distance map

Now this is what I call a really helpful post - worthy of a Super Moderator/Admin!

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Re: time and distance map

All right, all right! Is this more like it?

Similar map of Berlin
Source code so the OP can adapt it to Zurich himself. (I'd do it, but I'm right in the middle of a thrilling knitting project with the lovely new yarn I got on Saturday...)
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She's knitting an isochronic map of Zurich...
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...cleverly disguised as a tea cosy. With mice, no less.

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Re: time and distance map

She's dropped a stitch, the link didn't work for me.

Anyway this is very off-needle - er- sorry off-topic.
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these two maps give you an idea, BUT most depends on YOUR ability (knowledge, experience, flexiblity) to use the services efficiently. If using the system badly you need an hour for everything, if knowing the area in and out, if knowing the system, and if being ready to adapt to changing things, you can by using public transport, beat a potential heli service


take Schaffhausen as example. While there are heaps of trains from Schaffhausen Bahnhof to Zürich HB, if you get accross the Rhein and at Feuerthalen Bahnhof catch the S16, you have a direct train to Bhf Stadelhofen
obviously, the idea is to base it on the average minimal time and not some arbitrary inefficient journey.

btw, the s16 goes to schaffhausen directly and pretty slow, you're almost always better off going to HB and getting the fast train from there, or going from stadelhofen to winterthur and changing there.
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Re: time and distance map

All right, here's another one (Google Maps API, should be quite a bit easier to adapt):
http://sandropaganotti.com/generate-...ogle-maps-api/

Specify a greater number of rays, change transport method from car to PT, and say hello to your uncle Robert.
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All right, here's another one (Google Maps API, should be quite a bit easier to adapt):
http://sandropaganotti.com/generate-...ogle-maps-api/

Specify a greater number of rays, change transport method from car to PT, and say hello to your uncle Robert.
yeah. i figured if i had to generate one myself, i could poll the sbb site to generate a table of travel times and then try to do something clever to create a map overlay from this. sounds like a lot of work though.
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obviously, the idea is to base it on the average minimal time and not some arbitrary inefficient journey.

btw, the s16 goes to schaffhausen directly and pretty slow, you're almost always better off going to HB and getting the fast train from there, or going from stadelhofen to winterthur and changing there.

My idea is to base things on MINIMAL time and the most efficient journey possible and NOT some INefficient rubbish. You have to bear in mind that changing trains takes more time in effect than 50kms of travelling IF not done wisely. Which means, that if you for example travel from Schaffhausen to Zürich Bellevue, the S16 out of Feuerthalen may be the faster solution than a fast train to Zch HB where you have to change trains. To combine SBB trains- S-trains, trams and buses is THE solution, and is completely up to YOU.

Yes, to take the Winterthur connection may in fact beat the other two routings by a good margin ! You in fact have to make your personal checks
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yeah. i figured if i had to generate one myself, i could poll the sbb site to generate a table of travel times and then try to do something clever to create a map overlay from this. sounds like a lot of work though.
And THIS is what I would advise against. Do not use theoretical sites and plans, but try things out personally and take notes, and come to YOUR personal conclusions, and this includes the time you need from your lodgings to the train station, etc.

For my grandparents living at Quellenstrasse on the "Breite" in Schaffhausen, the Feuerthalen station was no option, except when GrandMum worked near the Rheinbrücke at Schaffhauser Nachrichten the the phone-centre there (one of the first all around) in the 1900 (1901 to 1905)
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My idea is to base things on MINIMAL time and the most efficient journey possible and NOT some INefficient rubbish. You have to bear in mind that changing trains takes more time in effect than 50kms of travelling IF not done wisely. Which means, that if you for example travel from Schaffhausen to Zürich Bellevue, the S16 out of Feuerthalen may be the faster solution than a fast train to Zch HB where you have to change trains. To combine SBB trains- S-trains, trams and buses is THE solution, and is completely up to YOU.

Yes, to take the Winterthur connection may in fact beat the other two routings by a good margin ! You in fact have to make your personal checks
obviously, the idea is to base it on the average minimal time and not some arbitrary inefficient journey.

btw, the s16 goes to schaffhausen directly and does not stop at feuerthalen station.

the sbb website does give good connections although you can be a bit more aggresive on the fussweg times.
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