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Fat bird seed

Started feeding the birds again last week- today as it was sleeting and the feeders were empty, went out to fill them up again. The seeds from the bag were not flowing properly - then the big fat mouse jumped out!

All white out there.
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Old 20.10.2010, 18:06
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Re: Fat bird seed

It was OUTSIDE BTW!
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Re: Fat bird seed

That is the reason why Neuch, La Chaux and Val de Travers are just so tough.... snow in October

Though beautiful in Summer
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Re: Fat bird seed

Do they put the mouse in for any owls there may be in your garden?

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Re: Fat bird seed

Neuch is balmy - the Jura mountains are not for wimps defo. It's horrible now - but when the real snow comes, with the blue skies and sunshine - it will be grand again. Love it (although NOT today). Couldn't live below the grey fog cloud.
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Re: Fat bird seed

It might be Sutters or a friend of Sutter's; did you keep it since you were feeding it?
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Re: Fat bird seed

Sad news I'm afraid - mouse run into my flower border. Next morning sas Goulou, next door's cat, run out of said flower border with a big fat mouse in his mouth! Crunch.
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Re: Fat bird seed

That is just nature's way...
As long as said cat does not decide to surprise his owner
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Re: Fat bird seed

No, I saw the tail disappear downhill! Our cat in the UK (who now lives with ex neighbours there) used to bring me live presents all the time - hours spent catching mice in a cornflake packet. Aaarrgghhh Silky - we miss you.
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Re: Fat bird seed

My neighbour thinks I'm mad spending money on bird food - but what a joy. Today we had 100s of tree sparrows, Chaffinches, Great tits, blue tits and coal tits, 1 robin, quite a few nuthatches, and 'tarin des aulnes' - bramblings I thinks. Worth every Chuff!
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Re: Fat bird seed

Just an update re the fatballs and fat seed mix from the Coop. Just got a reply from Coop consumer service stating that their 'fat balls' and 'fat bird seed mix' do NOT contain palm oil (which was the case with most in the UK) but rapeseed or sunflower oils. Excellent news.
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Re: Fat bird seed

Just debating what to do this winter regarding putting seed out.

Last winter pussy was still quite young and hadn't honed his hunting skills - plus he had a collar with a bell.

However, a year later, he's proved himself as an adept bird catcher (sparrows) and - having lost several collars - he no longer has a bell ... before he hangs himself.

He's now lying on the sofa, lazily eying up the hopping balls of feathers scampering around on the patio looking for bugs.

My hanging bird feeder is safe enough, but I know from the past that many seeds drop on the ground and are eaten there (same with nets of nuts and fat balls).

It would be a shame not to put seeds out when the winter sets in - especially as I'm already seeing a a greater diversity - finches and tits, which have been bullied out in the last few years by sparrows .... but I also don't want to provide ready meals for the cat either.
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Re: Fat bird seed

Is it better for the birds to be healthy and well fed, therefore more able to avoid the cat (but also more tasty!), or hungry but more cautious.

Difficult one, but as I see it if your cat is eating birds you have a moral responsibility to replace them, and the only way to help that is by providing food and/or shelter.

So I'd stick up some bird boxes, put the feeders in the most cat-unfriendly place available, and maybe hose the cat a few times if it deliberately stalks that area (although they're so stubborn, it probably wouldn't help).
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Just debating what to do this winter regarding putting seed out.

Last winter pussy was still quite young and hadn't honed his hunting skills - plus he had a collar with a bell.

However, a year later, he's proved himself as an adept bird catcher (sparrows) and - having lost several collars - he no longer has a bell ... before he hangs himself.

He's now lying on the sofa, lazily eying up the hopping balls of feathers scampering around on the patio looking for bugs.

My hanging bird feeder is safe enough, but I know from the past that many seeds drop on the ground and are eaten there (same with nets of nuts and fat balls).

It would be a shame not to put seeds out when the winter sets in - especially as I'm already seeing a a greater diversity - finches and tits, which have been bullied out in the last few years by sparrows .... but I also don't want to provide ready meals for the cat either.
How can you deny your moggy a decent, self-caught meal?
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Just debating what to do this winter regarding putting seed out.
Thanks to Heffalump's seeming addiction to bird seed (and the inevitable results of such dietary indiscretion), we now have built our feathered friends something of a fortress. Would doing something similar keep yours safe?

We have built a meter high fence around the tree where we hang the bird feeder, enclosing roughly the area over which the birds scatter seeds. This leaves room for the ground feeders.

That kept Heffalump out, but we then realized that we had just built a hunting perch for the neighborhood moggies.

No fence will keep a cat out (especially one so determinedly foolhardy as to venture into the Muttley Crew's territory) so at the top of the fence enclosing the tree we strung bells along a wire. Now anytime a determinedly foolhardy cat thinks the fence would make a handy springboard, at least the birds hear the warning bells jingle.

The trick was leaving enough of an opening on the ground to allow hedgehogs entrance and egress without giving the cats a way in. Fortunately the neighborhood cats seem to be rather rotund.

So far so good.


But as I write this I see Heffalump eyeing the tempting cache of seed, his usually dormant brain cells working overtime calculating angles and projections... We'll see how long this fortress holds out.



By the bye, do the birds seem hungrier than usual this year? I've gone through 25kg of seed in under a month, and at least a half dozen fat balls per day.

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Re: Fat bird seed

I had a friend who had a pet budgie called Onan. He was such a messy eater....
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Thanks to Heffalump's seeming addiction to bird seed (and the inevitable results of such dietary indiscretion), we now have built our feathered friends something of a fortress. Would doing something similar keep yours safe?

We have built a meter high fence around the tree where we hang the bird feeder, enclosing roughly the area over which the birds scatter seeds. This leaves room for the ground feeders.

That kept Heffalump out, but we then realized that we had just built a hunting perch for the neighborhood moggies.

No fence will keep a cat out (especially one so determinedly foolhardy as to venture into the Muttley Crew's territory) so at the top of the fence enclosing the tree we strung bells along a wire. Now anytime a determinedly foolhardy cat thinks the fence would make a handy springboard, at least the birds hear the warning bells jingle.

The trick was leaving enough of an opening on the ground to allow hedgehogs entrance and egress without giving the cats a way in. Fortunately the neighborhood cats seem to be rather rotund.

So far so good.


But as I write this I see Heffalump eyeing the tempting cache of seed, his usually dormant brain cells working overtime calculating angles and projections... We'll see how long this fortress holds out.



By the bye, do the birds seem hungrier than usual this year? I've gone through 25kg of seed in under a month, and at least a half dozen fat balls per day.
I was just thinking of putting a bit of birdseed in a hanging feeder .......

...... and not major construction to create an animal assault course


Plus - you'll never outsmart the squirrels:

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Just an update re the fatballs and fat seed mix from the Coop. Just got a reply from Coop consumer service stating that their 'fat balls' and 'fat bird seed mix' do NOT contain palm oil (which was the case with most in the UK) but rapeseed or sunflower oils. Excellent news.

Yeah, sparrows fry up so much better if they been fed sun oil
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