38 CHf an hour?.. I think I'm going to have to open another thread as to cleaning lady costs... we pay ours 25Chf ( altho she has effectively given herself a raise as we know she doesn't do the 5 hrs. we pay her for )

close... oh so close....

...to cope with men.... Sometimes I really really wish I was a lesbian...

umm..... no, I can't say that.

how about............errr.... nope.


*mods, please delete this worthless post , and if you could clean up the thoughts going thru my mind that would be appreciated also*

That's something that is becoming more common again with today's economy... without even bothering with the "old world" tendencies - a very very traditional Sicilian family I used to work with, both "children" stayed at parents home until they got married.

I think it is very wise - as long as the children are in some way helping in / around the family home.

...by the way Grynch. Just to better understand your debacle....could you please describe how your cleaning lady looks.

Swisspea, at 38.- an hour, I can do a quite nice job... that, and ensuring your bottles of wine don't get forgotten full in the fridge...

Peg I think Sicilian said it all, as with Latin Americans children leave the house a lot later than in the western world.

umm... no,


could I just say she has a lovely personality and is good at her job.

....you haven't learned anything have you..or did Mrs. G select the lucky soul?

I would make a deliberate mess just so I got my money's worth

So do we hon. So do we.

Well, I agree there BUT as Bertrand is Swiss and Switzerland isn't as "western" about some things as others...

Hubby was home with his mom until I forced the issue too.

Pervert!

Any further proof needed? WTFBBQ!

When we first moved here, I was lucky to have cleaning help from a lovely Swiss lady of the 'Oma' generation...

...who scared me senseless.

The day before she was due to come, I would run around like a woman possessed, scouring every nook and cranny. I was terrified that I might fail to live up to the standards of Swiss cleanliness-next-to-godliness. That look of astonishment and disapproval, the slight shake of the head and barely-audible 'tsk'... Enough to turn even the strongest expat into a mass of quivering jelly.

Your wife's behavior is perfectly normal, Grynch.

I'm always reminded of a conversation between friends of mine (a couple) that took place during the Euro a few years ago. The guy called out the girl for being illogical about something. She turned to him and said, "Last night you were banging your fist on the couch and yelling because some guys you'll never know or meet were losing a football match."

Ouch.

I guess that's why people who have cleaners have clean houses. All the cleaner needs to do is wash her sherry glass before she leaves.

I guess that discussion about cleaning before the cleaning lady comes happens in every household
It also puzzled me when I saw my wife actively cleaning the house. I understood the rationale behind it a few years later: cleaning ladies are sometimes real gossip.