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Drunken Swiss

What is it with these drunken Swiss people. Sober they are peaceful and care if anything goes wrong but pour a drink in them and they become so damned aggressive.

Again tonight got in a big fight with one at my bar trying to kick him out after he got in a fight with some other people. This is the second or 3rd time now that a local Swiss kid is so aggressive.

He got his butt handed to him tho by the others tho so hopefully he has learned his lessen but I doubt it.

Just finding it funny as I have had no issues with foreigners of any kind but only the Swiss ones...... (and I have a lot of immigrants coming in the bar).

Are they so bottled up with all their control and anger that it just comes out multiplied ????

Also on a different note : as he picked a fight with the wrong people and got beaten pretty good, in the process of throwing him out my clothes got covered in blood. Are these stains forever?
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Old 26.10.2010, 02:22
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Re: Drunken Swiss

Well in Cyprus there are some special detergent things that are supposed to clean blood. I dont know in Switzerland though. My opinion is soaking whatever got stained in hot water for an hour or more and then wash immediately.


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Re: Drunken Swiss

2 drunken swiss walk in, should have refused too serve....didnt

6 students are drinking their bottle minding their own business. guy starts yelling at them cause they speak English, gets up walks to one of the guys and punches him in the face. Other 5 students get up and knock him down. I get upset from behind the bar as they start throwing chairs get involved, lost my step on the blood and fell with him against a 100 kg table smaching my ribs and knee. finally drag him out with a last smack againts the door ( ) now dying with pain and thinking bout going to the emergency room as my knee is busted again (surgery before) and Im about to die......but I did make good money tonight haha
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Old 26.10.2010, 02:40
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Re: Drunken Swiss

Lol! I know what you are talking about. I hear the same things every day.

Just go to the emergency room. Better be safe than sorry. And there is no point having that health insurance if you dont use it right? Dont wait until tomorrow.
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Lol! I know what you are talking about. I hear the same things every day.

Just go to the emergency room. Better be safe than sorry. And there is no point having that health insurance if you dont use it right? Dont wait until tomorrow.

but i got a high deductible
and im sure there is nothing they can do....painkillers are kicking in also
and its a 20 min drive.....
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Old 26.10.2010, 02:55
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but i got a high deductible
and im sure there is nothing they can do....painkillers are kicking in also
and its a 20 min drive.....
Well in that case sleep it off and get a taxi there tomorrow. Better not drive. You could do more damage. But im not a doctor and i freak out when i see people getting hurt so maybe im not the best person to give advice!
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Re: Drunken Swiss

but if it is f ed I dont want my ski season to be over.......ugh choices
nah ill jsut sleep it off
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Old 26.10.2010, 03:00
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Re: Drunken Swiss

Well better not ski this season than not skiing ever.
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Re: Drunken Swiss

Since you were at work, doesn't it go on the insurance that your job provides? Not sure if you pay the deductible for this one. I could be wrong here...

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but i got a high deductible
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and its a 20 min drive.....
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My opinion is soaking whatever got stained in hot water for an hour or more and then wash immediately.
Don't use hot water!!! You'll "set" the blood stain.

Soak in cold water with some detergent. Then wash as normal, but in cold water.

Is it your own bar? Nevertheless, presumably you have accident insurance through work, as fduvall mentioned, and there shouldn't be any deductible payable by you.
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Old 26.10.2010, 03:37
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Re: Drunken Swiss

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Don't use hot water!!! You'll "set" the blood stain.

Soak in cold water with some detergent. Then wash as normal, but in cold water.

Is it your own bar? Nevertheless, presumably you have accident insurance through work, as fduvall mentioned, and there shouldn't be any deductible payable by you.
Hot water works for me. Well at least we agree in the soak part :P
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Re: Drunken Swiss

For the cleaning ladies amongst us : blood can be removed in the following ways, all tested by myself ( lived in Ireland for 7 years, bound to get a hit in the face at some stage

1 Cold Water: Soak the clothing overnight in cold water and rub with liquid detergent in the morning. The blood stains will be removed.

2 Salt water: Dip the clothing in water and add a tablespoon of salt to it. After sometime, rub the cloth and the blood stain will be eliminated.

3 Baking Soda: Sprinkle a small amount of baking soda on the blood stain and repeat the process (takes 1 hour) every fifteen minutes before washing. It is the safe and easy way to remove the blood stains out of the fabric.

4 Glass cleaner: Glass cleaner is another effective way to remove the blood stain. As the glass cleaner is a mixture of ammonia and water, it is helpful in removing the blood stains from the clothes

5 Shampoo: Using a shampoo is an effective way for taking off the blood stains from clothes. Just rub the stain with shampoo and the stain will be eliminated.

and for Anthony1406 : sorry to hear about the fight, do you own the bar or work there as an employee? if you work there, what ever your boss is paying you is not enough, you are defening his place like its your own

Btw.. do you serve any delicious Belgian beer or only the local piswasser? ( sorry, being from belgium, i can't stand the german or swiss "beer " ..)
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Old 26.10.2010, 05:25
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2 drunken swiss walk in, should have refused too serve....didnt
Not so sure he's being underpaid...

I'll second... third?... at any rate, support the soaking followed by cold water approach. Works great.
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Old 26.10.2010, 05:29
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Re: Drunken Swiss

There are two products in the laundry section of the local Coop that takes out blood stains. One is called "ox blood" or something similar and comes in a regular round bottle that is sort of clear-ish. This is a "old fashioned" product and isn't always available. The other comes in a series of laundry products (one for blood, one for wine, one for grass, etc) and comes in a thin slanted side blue-ish plastic bottle.

Oh, look, I found them online:
Dr Beckman Products

Ox blood thingy (which is actually ox bile soap.... )


As for drunken fights, I highly doubt Switzerland is the only country with this problem.
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Old 26.10.2010, 07:28
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Re: Drunken Swiss

Why don't you call the police ?

They would take care of such people, putting them in a small cage for the night and give them a good lesson.

And to clean blood stain, my mum use lemon and carbonated water

Some people use also Hydrogen peroxide

and never wash blood with hot water.
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Re: Drunken Swiss

http://www.last.fm/music/The+Used/_/Blood+On+My+Hands

You felt the coldness in my eyes,
It's something I'm not revealing.
Though you got used to my disguise,
You can't shake this awful feeling.

It's the me that I let you know,
Cause' I'll never show,
I have my reasons.
I hate to say that I told you so,
But I told you so.

There's blood on my hands like the blood in you.
Some things can't be treated so,
Don't make me,
Don't make me be myself around you.

Straight from your eyes it's barely me.
Beautifully so disfigured.
This other side that you can't see,
Just praying you won't remember.

Feel the pain that I never show,
I hope you know,
It's never healing.
I hate to say that I told you so, but I told you so.

There's blood on my hands like the blood in you.
Some things can't be treated so,
Don't make me,
Don't make me be myself around you.

Straight from your eyes it's barely me
Beautifully so disfigured.
This other side that you can't see,
Just praying you won't remember.

There's blood.
There's blood.
There's blood, blood, blood.

There's blood on my hands like the blood in you.
Some things can't be treated so,
Don't make me,
Don't make me be myself around you.

There's blood on my hands like the blood in you.
Some things can't be treated so,
Don't make me,
Don't make me be myself around you.

There's blood!
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Old 26.10.2010, 08:47
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Re: Drunken Swiss

represed anger

could you imagine an entire life of represion, not able to make any noise since you was a child, strict rules everywhere, hefty fines if you step on a line, having to present always a polite and strong image to everyone, not have anyone to depend/count on because everyone is so individual ?

some people surely live it well others not.
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but i got a high deductible
and im sure there is nothing they can do....painkillers are kicking in also
and its a 20 min drive.....
Deductible is irrelevant as this was an accident so it is covered by your employer
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Old 26.10.2010, 09:13
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Deductible is irrelevant as this was an accident so it is covered by your employer
I would be careful with that one: Insurances have globally one thing in common - they do not really like to pay. So they typically look for a victim that they will drag to court and put the bills on. In this case we have a clear aggressor, so it would land on his table.

BUT:
- the OP did not call the cops and did not report the fight, so we do not know the name or address of the aggressor
- the OP said he "got involved"... so he was not really attacked. I know that no person in his right mind would do so, but legally I believe he would have to call the cops and watch the kids smash the bar till the cops arrive...

SO: I am not an expert enough to say what to do, but the case is obviously complicated enough that the OP should ask an expert...
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i freak out when i see people getting hurt so maybe im not the best person to give advice!
Same here. if I see a fight break out or mindless violence I feel sick.
I've witnessed two fights this year where I've looked around to see my friends' faces and two of them were fascinated and I think smiling. I think that reaction's pretty screwed up too.

Quote from Paul Calf:
I was standing in a queue in the chip shop and a student was paying for a bag of chips by cheque.
I told him to get a move on or I'd hit him. He said, "He didn't want to fight me because he didn't believe it was right to raise his hands in anger against his fellow man". Ooh It's happy hour!
He kicked the sh*t out of me. He was a kickboxer.

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