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Old 05.11.2010, 10:57
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if you think relationships are just about falling down and then getting up

and picking yourself up you obviously did not read Anna Karenina
If you're aiming for a tragic romance along the lines of Anna Karenina, you're asking for trouble.

You may have difficulty finding an epic, aristrocratic milieu here.

All I can ask is that, however difficult it may be in Switzerland, you stay away from train tracks.
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Old 05.11.2010, 11:14
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I will suffer gracefully

alone
And,there's this phrase somewhere,
smile & the world smiles with you, cry and you cry alone

Come on go easy on yourself.........you don't need to be so gung-ho about what people feels and thinks about you.It varies from person to person,different perspectives and attitude,everyone has second thoughts and no one's perfect.

There are people here who knows what you mean and maybe they are trying to cheer you up with little light-hearted comments and ideas and also there may be critics too.......but they are found everywhere

Sometimes,in the quest of what we want and expect,we don't notice so many things around us,and it often happens that we move away from people who really loves us and head for the ones who we ourselves want to Love,and end up pouring our Love on them who does not needs them or are just enjoying our affection like Pop-corns while watching a movie.

At this juncture,I should say that we are not losers that sometimes we feel about ourselves,but they who didn't value our Love and caring and affections are the real Losers.......lets get that fact.

Now,it seems that you are inconsolable,still I link this song to my post and its dedicated to people who understands the value of Love and how it feels through times good and bad,I hope you would find it interesting,
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Old 05.11.2010, 12:04
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Re: women who love too much

thank you for the song
it said that sony music does not allow it to be heard but i do have my collection for cheerup purposes
i agree, some of the comments made me laugh, others shocked me
and i understand that humanity is a zoo

Anyway, always look at the bright side of life ,
right?

I have read the comments, taken notes and yes

will do

classic concerts, hikes, dog , etc etc

And think to myself
It´s a wonderful world
and i even look better than louie armstrong so all the more reason to

SMILE
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Old 05.11.2010, 12:08
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Re: women who love too much

p.S.
to the comment
that love is overrated

on the contrary it is well underrated

Grammar is over rated
beer is over rated
switzerland is over rated

but love is under rated

but it is possible that i have been looking for love in all the wrong places

it is inside and should be shared by those who can receive it with

appreciation and not a kick in the guts

right?

As for Anna, well, it is a Russian novel and well we Russian rooted people

love our drama queens

but to live like one?

no thanks
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Old 05.11.2010, 12:22
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Old 05.11.2010, 12:34
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women who love too much

Starshine- you said that you will ignore those who criticized you. Do you think that's a good idea? If you've only listened to people who agree with you and share your views throughout your life, but then you keep making the same [relationship] mistakes again and again, don't you think it's time to rethink your approach to taking advice?

Also, Sartre actually said "hell is OTHER people". I find it quite amusing that you chose to quote that since you yourself are looking for "other people" to share your misery and pain with. If I remember correctly, the people in the room realize what hell means only after "sharing" with each other ALL their thoughts, dreams, desires, unpleasant memories etc..

Lastly, Anna Karenina is a book, not an ultimate truth about life and love. "The Trial" did not make me think that I might be prosecuted at any moment for an unknown, abstract crime. "Arabian Nights" did not send me on year-long quests for treasure-laden islands and genies, and "The Count of Monte Cristo" did not inspire in me murderous revenge for all my enemies.
So shouldn't you take Anna Karenina as a fact of life, it is not a "love-bible"...
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Old 05.11.2010, 13:26
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beer is over rated
Okay, now you're just going too far sista!
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Old 05.11.2010, 13:51
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Starshine- you said that you will ignore those who criticized you. Do you think that's a good idea? If you've only listened to people who agree with you and share your views throughout your life, but then you keep making the same [relationship] mistakes again and again, don't you think it's time to rethink your approach to taking advice?

Also, Sartre actually said "hell is OTHER people". I find it quite amusing that you chose to quote that since you yourself are looking for "other people" to share your misery and pain with. If I remember correctly, the people in the room realize what hell means only after "sharing" with each other ALL their thoughts, dreams, desires, unpleasant memories etc..

Lastly, Anna Karenina is a book, not an ultimate truth about life and love. "The Trial" did not make me think that I might be prosecuted at any moment for an unknown, abstract crime. "Arabian Nights" did not send me on year-long quests for treasure-laden islands and genies, and "The Count of Monte Cristo" did not inspire in me murderous revenge for all my enemies.
So shouldn't you take Anna Karenina as a fact of life, it is not a "love-bible"...
I think she's a little high maintanance - reasoning will not work
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Old 05.11.2010, 14:24
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women who love too much

If that's true, then maybe this thread should be called "Women who love themselves too much".
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Old 05.11.2010, 16:23
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The other side of this is that there are some people who need to be needed, that is how they feel loved. The needier the person, the more likely they are to remain reliant on you help, the less likely they are to leave, so the more you feel loved and needed.
I am sure that Starshine will meet someone like this and enter into a beautifully symbiotic relationship.
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Old 05.11.2010, 16:27
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The other side of this is that there are some people who need to be needed, that is how they feel loved. The needier the person, the more likely they are to remain reliant on you help, the less likely they are to leave, so the more you feel loved and needed.
I am sure that Starshine will meet someone like this and enter into a beautifully symbiotic relationship.
Doesn't sound like a Russian novel to me...
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Old 05.11.2010, 18:07
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switzerland is over rated
I don't think so,CH is the most beautiful place to be in

........instead you can tell the concept of criticism as a way of helping to be overrated.

Criticism as it comes should not end up hurting and killing the same purpose it hopes to better.So there is a way to criticize which would be real eye-opener instead of being a spoiler.
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All I ever learned in life was from dishonest women who drank & smoked too much..
Ahhh..so you met them too. Magnificent, aren't they?
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I don't think so,CH is the most beautiful place to be in

........instead you can tell the concept of criticism as a way of helping to be overrated.

Criticism as it comes should not end up hurting and killing the same purpose it hopes to better.So there is a way to criticize which would be real eye-opener instead of being a spoiler.
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WOMEN!

A bad one will break you but a good one will make you.
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Old 29.07.2011, 13:16
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Re: women who love too much

I wonder how all the squishy comforting ex-bashing sessions worked out. I had a friend who went through therapy for awhile. After each session, she always came back in tears. She wasn't going to get her hand held, she was going to have her assumptions about herself and how she dealt with the world challenged. Having people pat your hand and be 'supportive' doesn't seem to do much other than make you feel better for a moment.
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I think making bad experiences and finding a path to either cope with it or overcome your pain, is part of life.

It makes you stronger.

For how long someone else can or is going to hold your hand?
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Re: women who love too much

When I was between marriages, a girlfriend of mine introduced me to these books: 'How to spot a dangerous man before it's too late' and 'Why men love bitches', both of which make for very interesting reading!
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Re: women who love too much

Most of this can be summarized thus..

Men don't like needy women.

Women don't like being ignored.

/end thread.
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