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Learning to make Jewelry with Master

Hello!
I would like to learn a new profession - which is jewelry maker (main goal is silver and gold). Do anyone know any Masters/Crafters who offers lessions? Or maybe some small studio?
My German is not perfect, but I did take some courses and I know basic and understand a lot - so it would be good to learn from someone who speaks German.

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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

A new profession? How serious are you? Because if you are really into it you can do an apprenticeship as a Goldschmied. But it will take 4 years.
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

I am serious about it. But I have no experience in it - so I don`t know where to even start - thats why I`m asking for some advice, some personal or semi-personal training, schooling. In my homeland - there are masters who offers training - starting from very basics (usually they work with handicraft stores and museums).
Sadly I cant find anything about it in Switzerland (most likely because my German or Swiss German is not so advanced).
About apprenticeship as a Goldschmied, do they teach it from very beginning?
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

Did you check the link given? Did you read the bit about Schnupperkurse? Did you check out a Googled link or two about the apprenticeship system in Switzerland? (This link if really about Swiss Abroad, but there must be quite a few others). Have you been into a Goldsmith's workshop and asked?

Some doors around here are labelled 'push'. So I suggest you push them instead of asking someone else to hold them open for you.

...and here's another link to check out.
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

Yes, indeed, I tried to understand what Schnupperkurse is - I had a feeling it might be courses for beginners (as I`m used to word Anfängerkurs usually). Thanks for confirming it (and of course I checked link provided to me). Sorry for my lame German, and sorry its worse than yours, Longbyt, as it made you so upset.

About http://aso.ch, yes its a nice page for overall information, but thats about it.

And no, I haven`t been in Goldsmith's workshop asking do they will teach me. Maybe its mentality or I am plain shy - but I am not used to go to places and randomly ask for services I`m not sure they offer. Thats why I wanted to ask here, maybe people have experience and such.
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Ah and I dont understand swiss german at all. None. So it prevents me to go and talk with random swiss people, especially with my A2 German, about such specific things as they rarely can talk high German (eventho they think, they do). <--about "Have you been into a Goldsmith's workshop and asked?"
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

You know what a 'Kurs' is. So what is 'Schnupper'?
Babelfish and Google translate both give 'taster' which doesn't mean as much beginner as 'try it'. And that's what it is.
In a Schnupperlehre, someone who wants to do a specific apprenticeship and gets an invitation to do so (pushes a few doors open!) goes along to the workplace, tries his hand, under supervision, at various jobs and gets an idea of what the job entails. It saves a lot of heartache on both sides if the firm and the new lad or lass both know what they are getting themselves into. Well, that's the theory!
In a Schnupper course, you pay to find out what the job entails and, in this case, have your work judged as to 'how good it is/you are'.

I didn't actually suggest you ask at a Goldsmith's for them to teach you, but perhaps show interest, ask if they take apprentices usw.
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Sorry for my lame German, and sorry its worse than yours, Longbyt, as it made you so upset.
It didn't upset me - but it seems to me a pity that you have been here for nearly two years and now have difficulty with fairly basic stuff. It's not a question of whether I'm happy about it, but I would imagine it quite a task to learn German and learn a trade at the same time.

Just for the record, we didn't have nearly as many possibilites for learning German and Swiss German when I came here as there are now. Tape cassettes were just coming in. No Internet, no CD's, no MP3 Player. No Ipods, no Skype, no Mobile phones with microphones.
Dictionaries, newspapers, shops, ski clubs, work colleagues and Swiss Radio and Television were our learning methods - and it helped a lot to be able to laugh at ones own mistakes, which, I assure you, were numerous.
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

I think I shall apply to Schnupperkurse in VSGU

Thanks aSwissInTheUS.
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

If you apply and get accepted, do read the bit about how much you have to pay if you change your mind, won't you?
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

You mean this part?
Kostenbeitrag: CHF 280.00.
Bei Abmeldung nach Versand der schriftlichen Bestätigung wird ein Kostenbeitrag von CHF 80.00 erhoben; bei Nichterscheinen im Kurs wird der volle Betrag verrechnet.
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Indeed I did. Run it through Google or Babelfish if you are not sure. The translations are not all that good, but give you an idea of the meaning.
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Re: Learning to make Jewelry with Master

Well I`m not that clueless then. Woohoo to me!
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Sorry guys. Try to do better tomorrow - ach, no. No EF then. Waste my time at Triemli all day instead.


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I would imagine it quite a task to learn German and learn a trade at the same time.
I did that, sort of.

Every day after my normal job, I hung out at the local bike shop, and learned German from a Sicilian while helping out fixing bikes, plus filled in a few marque specific gaps in my knowledge (useful to this day, as almost all my bikes are Guzzis and Ducatis, and I do all the work on them, few mechanics are what I would consider good, though I know a few).

Of course, I didn't know that I would end up down south, otherwise I would have learnt Italian instead! (in fact, we saw each other a week ago, and speak Italian these days)

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