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Re: School rankings in Switzerland

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another statistics that might be interesting in this regard
Interesting but what does this prove? That kids in Ticino or Basel are brighter than in Zürich or St Gallen? Nope, this is a mainly political decision! Canton Zürich has been artificially trying to lower the Gymnasium entrance rate over the last three plus years by making the entrance exam more and more difficult. The guy at the education department Zurich I spoke to admitted very openly that the decision to do so was politically motivated.
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Nope, this is a mainly political decision!
An approach that keeps being supported by the population (at least in the German speaking parts, not sure about the others).

The more students you have the less intelligent they are on average.
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An approach that keeps being supported by the population (at least in the German speaking parts, not sure about the others).

The more students you have the less intelligent they are on average.
It has little to with intelligence and more to do with the cost of a gymi student (include the cost of a guaranteed place at uni) and a reasonable desire to see kids take on a more vocational training. Time to change the system
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Old 17.06.2019, 08:39
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It has little to with intelligence and more to do with the cost of a gymi student (include the cost of a guaranteed place at uni) and a reasonable desire to see kids take on a more vocational training. Time to change the system
Your evidence is ..?
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Time to change the system
Change the system to what?

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Change the system to what?

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Some starters:
Start school at 5 yrs old
Reduce hours and homework
Integrate external societies/clubs/teams better into school activities
No selection at the end of primary school
No six year gymi
Change funding to cantonal rather than gemeinde/cantonal
Integrate DMs/FMS/gymi into a single Volksschule with easier transfer between streams
Change the Matura to allow single subject grades rather than a simple pass/fail
Introduce some external exams/marking
Do away with the guaranteed university place
Start apprenticeships later
No chance of change
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Old 17.06.2019, 21:44
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Re: School rankings in Switzerland

Yes, because that has worked so great for other countries.......


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Some starters:
Start school at 5 yrs old
Reduce hours and homework
Integrate external societies/clubs/teams better into school activities
No selection at the end of primary school
No six year gymi
Change funding to cantonal rather than gemeinde/cantonal
Integrate DMs/FMS/gymi into a single Volksschule with easier transfer between streams
Change the Matura to allow single subject grades rather than a simple pass/fail
Introduce some external exams/marking
Do away with the guaranteed university place
Start apprenticeships later
No chance of change
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Yes, because that has worked so great for other countries.......
A good argument for changing nothing in Switzerland
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Old 18.06.2019, 13:24
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Re: School rankings in Switzerland

Yep, that strategy has worked pretty well for this country so far I would say.


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A good argument for changing nothing in Switzerland
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Old 18.06.2019, 13:32
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A good argument for changing nothing in Switzerland
I had a teacher that often said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Our experience of it thus far is pretty positive. A couple of minor bumps along the way but so far, so good.
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Re: School rankings in Switzerland

If your experience is good that is great. Ours were not so ideal. Working in the system I was frustrated by the constant changes happening, few of which seemed to really address the important issues. People always moan about the education system “when I look back on high school, it’s a wonder I can think at all” it ain’t broke but it could be better
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