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Old 21.01.2014, 22:38
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Better place to live in Zurich with kids

Hi,

We are planning to move to Zurich in a couple of months. We have kids going to public school. Can anyone advise me which area is better to move? We are looking for a friendly neighborhood where it will be easy for my kids to integrate.

I searched in the forum and found some answers but the info is a bit outdated. I tried to send private messages to the persons who posted there but most of them are inactive now.

So please share your ideas. Thanks a lot in advance.
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

First you should find a place to live. Then consider this problem. It's not easy to find a place to live in Swiss for new non-native Swiss.
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

Yeah, I agree. I have seen long queue for a single house available in the city. So We thought of looking for houses a bit outer the city. But since the area is wider we are not sure which location to concentrate. How about Bonstetten?
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

Hi, we moved to Bonstetten 5 years ago, (as we couldn't find an on budget apartment we liked anywhere else) and our kids have integrated well and we're happy living here.

There aren't loads of expat families but the language support in the school is good, the teachers have all been great and generally people are friendly and the children have plenty of local friends. There's a good choice of after school activities for kids in the village, eg football, ballet, art, gymnastics, multi-sports club, music etc.

Happy to help if you have any more questions. Best wishes.
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

To find a place to live, one must still first decide which area one would like to search in. And which area is the most suitable of course depends a lot on the budget. But feeling well at home is also important.

The areas that are further away from the city centre are less expensive. Although there is not much going on - there are not so many shops / cafes / or other entertainment options - it might be appealing to some people, for example families who appreciate peace and quiet. In such areas the prices would vary too depending on the proximity to public transport stops/stations, the busyness of traffic, the view (areas along the lake are more expensive than those north of central Zurich), the building itself.

Public schools are, however, affected by the whole areas' attractiveness. Well, the very centre (City, Lindenhof, Rathaus) is the most 'attractive' for the majority, therefore, has the most expensive homes (but I think there are no schools there). Then follows Seefeld, Hochschulen and Enge (and there are schools). Then Fluntern, Wiedikon. Everything that is on the right from the lake in fact looks nice and is on the more expensive side. Albisrieden is rather green too, but it is on the cheaper side. Oerlikon, Wipkingen are on the way to the airport and have quiet and peaceful areas, and a lot of new houses are being constructed here; they are also on a cheaper side.

Langstrasse is considered to be the worst area because of prostitution and some illegal activities.

So, the nicer the area, the more expensive are the homes. It means that more well-off families live there who have a particular set of values. They, for example, value education, so their children study harder at school. The more such children are at school, the better the school is. However, like anywhere else there are exceptions - bad teachers and spoiled pupils in 'good' schools, good teachers and hardworking and ambitious pupils in 'bad' schools.

So, in fact, a lot depends on the parents, irrespective of the area where the family lives or the school the children attend.

Therefore, it is best to check out the areas for oneself and choose the place that you find as most suitable for living for you. Then you'll find like-minded families in the area because they had chosen it too. And your children should be able to integrate without problems.

I personally like where I live now with my family (my children are not at school yet though) - in Oerlikon, a couple of tram stops away from the train station. It takes me about 20-25 minutes to get to Hauptbahnhof area, and 20 minutes to the airport by tram. The food shops are also very close. But there is no much activity, the area is more for living than working. It's nice to walk outside with children, no need to go to parks or into the mountains for fresh are and peace (not many cars pass by here and the 30 kmh speed limit is in place), there are a lot of playgrounds, a football school, a couple of primary and secondary schools nearby, even a couple of restaurants are within a 10-minute walk. I like it.
Before this area was generally considered 'bad' - it was for immigrants or not well-off families. It was very cheap and not desirable to those working in the city. It is now still cheaper than even Wiedikon, for example, but It is already nice, and I like living here.

Haiswiss, I hope I was helpful.
If you have more questions, let me know.
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

I appreciate your feedback. I understand that the best school depends on the way the kid sees the school and how friendly and open he or she is to others. We have lived in many cantons in Swiss and I realized that a lot depends on how we take the situation personally.
Hope to find a better place for shelter soon. Thanks a lot for your guidance.
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

If you are looking at Bonstetten try also Affolten am Albis. There are quite a lot of ex-pats around so the schools are used to integrating children, the schools are also pretty good.
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I don't think it's impossible..
we live in Zollikeberg and kids have integrated really well, I've seen this question again, and I've replied , so do a search if you don't mind...

and there are plenty of apartments for rent....

best of luck!
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I don't think it's impossible..
we live in Zollikeberg and kids have integrated really well, I've seen this question again, and I've replied , so do a search if you don't mind...

and there are plenty of apartments for rent....

best of luck!
Zollikeberg needs a large wallet .
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If you are looking at Bonstetten try also Affolten am Albis. There are quite a lot of ex-pats around so the schools are used to integrating children, the schools are also pretty good.
im becoming very impressed with Baar at the moment. cheap tax and a hell of a lot on offer in general and good expat community
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

Here are some sensible options,...

Uster!!!
The amount of people i met on here before i moved and at the beginning of my swiss journey who were moving all over the ZH canton who now wish they had known about Uster!
Uster is very multi-cultural, i have many friends who have moved there and many others who have since moved there after realising their first choice of 'Dorf' wasnt particulary suitable! The villages around Uster, for example Volketswil and Gutenswil also have a number of expats living in them!
Uster has an International Families centre which has playgroups, book clubs, dinner clubs, girls/boy clubs, and english reading and writing lessons etc if you want your child to keep up their 'english level'. www.wac.ch
( 10-15 mins to zh on public transport!)

Fallanden

There is a large international community here, although it doesnt have the 'international centre' i have about 10 people i know who live here and have all found each other and look out for any other expats to welcome into their little bubble of friends ( obviously they are very friendly with the swiss too and all the kids go to the local school). (20-25 mins to get to zh by public transport)

Pfaffikon

A great little place by the lake, with a few international folk, down the road from me, the schools in the pfaffikon gemiender are brilliant with helping transition the kids from their native language to german, i am very pleased with my childrens progress and how happy they are. (25 mins to zh by public transport)

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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

This is great loulabelle!
Fantastic insider knowledge especially the International Centre.

Thanks
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Re: Better place to live in Zurich with kids

The main thing to consider is travel times to work from wherever you choose to live. I work in Altstetten and was commuting 2hrs door to door from Basel Claraplatz.

We took the decision to move in early 2010 as I got fed up of the lengthy commute - especially arriving home in the evening only in time for my young son starting bedtime.

We concentrated our search around Altstetten, Albisrieden, and up towards Höngg as being within a bike ride of work, having plenty of green but also being close enough to the city centre to be able to participate in any social life.

Like you, my Homegate searches came up with places that had lengthy waiting lists etc. But the key was to review the search results each day - and several times a day - and to be quick off the mark with arranging viewings. We. Were also prepared to be a little bit flexible with the apartment itself - e.g. The kitchen is a bit on the small side and the apartment overall is in need of modernisation but it's still okay. I was also very sad to give up the huge rooftop balcony we had in Basel The important thing is a 5min commute to work and the apartment is situated in an area which is away from traffic and there are parks and play areas that my son can get to without having to cross a road.

The place we got was being vacated by a couple who were doing a lifestyle change and wanted to find a "nachmieter" to take over the place before the 3 months notice period. As the decor is a bit dated, plus the place is only really suitable for a family they did not get a lot of people interested in the apartment. And the rental company were keen to get a family in plus my having a steady job helped.

Uster is quite nice and has good connections to Zurich. Also consider other places along the lake - Wädenswil, Horburg, Thalwil - as you may get a little more for your money.

I assumed we would be looking for years, but in fact from the time we started until the time we moved was a matter of a few months.

The other thing we decided was we were prepared to take a place that maybe is not ideal, but in Zurich as once you are living in the place, you can take time to decide which areas of Zurich you like and then look for your ideal place. This was especially true for us as our son was a toddler, and my wife working, and arranging for my wife to come out to Zurich for a viewing at the drop of a hat from Basel midweek was not so easy.

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