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Old 30.10.2016, 21:39
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Sorry I mean zhaw

I am confused where to go between master in banking and finance in Zhaw or master finance in neuchatal university

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a) do you speak French or German? That will decide it right there, probably.
b) ZHAW is not a university, but a university of applied sciences. Yes there is a difference. Unis of appl. sciences are more "practice" focused (or so they claim), but do not have the same academic standards or rigor like universities. Personally, I see no reason to go to a uni of appl. sciences unless you're a working professional (or of course lack the credentials to get to university, which apparently you don't), but clearly that is just my opinion. Neither option is necessarily better or worse than the other, but they are different. Which suits you better you need to decide yourself. As far as unis of appl. sciences go, ZHAW is probably the best option in CH. With "regular" universities in CH, you can't go wrong either, they are all good (with some being outstanding such as ETH).
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

Thank you for the reply.

As I want to search for work after the master degree and incase I didnot find work , I will go for phd that include phd . It will be better to go for neuchatel as it will make this easier especially I'm not EU which will make me eligible for C permit later on.
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Old 30.10.2016, 21:53
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Thank you for the reply.

As I want to search for work after the master degree and incase I didnot find work , I will go for phd that include phd . It will be better to go for neuchatel as it will make this easier especially I'm not EU which will make me eligible for C permit later on.
You mentioned this now a couple of times.

Why would Neuchatel be easier? I`d rather check what is what you want for the future rather than just focusing on a C permit, especially as the rules could well change soon.
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You mentioned this now a couple of times.

Why would Neuchatel be easier? I`d rather check what is what you want for the future rather than just focusing on a C permit, especially as the rules could well change soon.
Neuchâtel is one of the easiest cantons to get a C permit as things stand at the moment but of course that could easily change by the time he's eligible to apply.

He seems to think French will be easier for him to learn than German too and he won't encounter so many English speakers in Neuchâtel so he really will be exposed to a lot if French.
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

Yes I mentioned this a couple of times because without C permit it will much harder to buy home , work and live in switzerland.

I think Neuchâtel university is better than zhaw based on forum replies as it is considered university which will be easier to go for phd in case I didnot found work.
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Old 30.10.2016, 22:07
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You mentioned this now a couple of times.

Why would Neuchatel be easier? I`d rather check what is what you want for the future rather than just focusing on a C permit, especially as the rules could well change soon.
Actually, you can't really go for a PhD with a uni of applied sciences degree. As their programs don't offer the same level of academic research (if any) graduates usually don't qualify for a PhD (a real one that is). Plus teachers at unis of applied sciences are not usually professors, however Swiss regulation dictates that only a professor can take on a PhD student.

It's all in flux at the moment and has been for a while. Regardless, as said, the two are NOT the same and if someone wants a real academic education with the prospect of going for a PhD, a uni of applied sciences is not the way to go.

That being said, as with many others, I don't see why CanadaBC is so keen on living and working in Switzerland, having never been here, from what I understand. But anyway, I don't need to get it.

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Yes I mentioned this a couple of times because without C permit it will much harder to buy home , work and live in switzerland.
You can do pretty much all of that with a full B permit (i.e. one that allows you to reside and work, not the student permit).
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

I was about to protest that I know someone doing a PhD at a school of applied sciences, but on reflection, the student is doing most of the research at such a school, but is registered for his thesis at a Dutch University, so you are right.
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

That mean neuchatel is way better for me .

What about the B permit that allow the person to work and buy house and live his life normally in switzerland, as a master student , when I can apply for such permit espically that later on I need C permit as the new rule say no one can apply for citownship if he doesnot have the C permit.

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Old 31.10.2016, 07:49
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That mean neuchatel is way better for me .

What about the B permit that allow the person to work and buy house and live his life normally in switzerland, as a master student , when I can apply for such permit espically that later on I need C permit as the new rule say no one can apply for citownship if he doesnot have the C permit.

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When you get a proper job that lasts for more than a year then you will get a B permit.

Still keep in mind that permit rules look like they may be changing in future and there's no guarantee you could get either a B or a C if you're not integrated.

Why are you so obsessed with living here? I would have thought Canada would have just as much opportunity and certainly less hassle as far as citizenship is concerned, assuming you're not already a Canadian. If this is you looking through rose tinted glasses then you really need to do a reality check by visiting the country several times. Or do your course, but without this focus on Swiss citizenship. Not everyone likes it here and the rules can drive some people mad.
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I was about to protest that I know someone doing a PhD at a school of applied sciences, but on reflection, the student is doing most of the research at such a school, but is registered for his thesis at a Dutch University, so you are right.
I am right Though as said, all a bit in flux at the moment, with some pilot projects between unis and unis of appl. sciences. I could write an essay on this but of course I won't.

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What about the B permit that allow the person to work and buy house and live his life normally in switzerland, as a master student , when I can apply for such permit espically that later on I need C permit as the new rule say no one can apply for citownship if he doesnot have the C permit.
You cannot apply for anything. You need to find an employer after your graduation who is willing to sponsor you. You will continue to be a non-EU citizen no matter what and for a long period of time. Just to be clear: studying and graduating here gives you a very minor advantage on the job market, but not really either and only for a limited period of time.

And I second Medea's question: what's with the obsession? Why don't you come here and see if you even like it rather than speaking about citizenship, which will not be an option for years and years anyway.
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

I already visted it and I know people who live their and they enjoy it .for Canada I can get citizenship after 2 years but I don't like it and I already got acceptance in switzerland but I care about Woking as full time in switzerland that is way I am asking and I don't care about citizenship.

I will have a good chance for finding a job after completing my master degree as I have 6 month to search for job where I will have the opportunity as any other person in the country who is perminant resident status .if I had the job ai don't care if they gave me the citizenship even after 30 years
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I already visted it and I know people who live their and they enjoy it .for Canada I can get citizenship after 2 years but I don't like it and I already got acceptance in switzerland but I care about Woking as full time in switzerland that is way I am asking and I don't care about citizenship.

I will have a good chance for finding a job after completing my master degree as I have 6 month to search for job where I will have the opportunity as any other person in the country who is perminant resident status .if I had the job ai don't care if they gave me the citizenship even after 30 years
You may want to explore further what living in Switzerland implies. The chances of finding a job within 6 months are slim, also as you will have huge competition from equally qualified EU en non EU graduates.

This is not the US where you get fired and hired within mere weeks, the processes here take much longer.

PS: And you are contradicting yourself, now suddenly the citizenship is no longer important?
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English not first language causing the odd hiccup I expect.

Understand that no one will "give" you Swiss citizenship. You have to earn it. And even being here 30 years won't guarantee you'll be granted it. There was a recent case of an American professor who's lived here 39 years and still wasn't considered integrated enough when he applied.
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Re: MSc in Finance at Lausanne or Neuchâtel

The citizenship is not important if you have the right to work and live without restriction so as I am non EU finding full time job will be more than enough even for 30 and 40 years I don't want more than this as citizenship come with time and I never contracticted myself
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The citizenship is not important if you have the right to work and live without restriction so as I am non EU finding full time job will be more than enough even for 30 and 40 years I don't want more than this as citizenship come with time and I never contracticted myself
But the only guarantee that your permit may not be revoked is to get citizenship. See the link I provided regarding possible changes to obtaining permits in the future. Nothing, I repeat nothing, guarantees you can live and work here without restriction except Swiss citizenship. Everything else is down to how the Swiss decide they want their laws on permits to be. And it looks like those rules are going to get tougher.
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I will have a good chance for finding a job after completing my master degree as I have 6 month to search for job where I will have the opportunity as any other person in the country who is perminant resident status .if I had the job ai don't care if they gave me the citizenship even after 30 years
As a new college leaver, you don't have a particularly good chance of finding a job, especially as you've said you don't speak French or German. Presumably you hope to work in finance or banking, which are highly competitive (and contracting fields for foreigners). Without language fluency, you will struggle, unless you have some truly unique skill that an employer needs that can't be found locally.

Why not just do your course and see how things pan out? It's very easy to like Switzerland after one or two short visits., but a lot of people can't wait to leave once they encounter the bureaucracy and restrictions. (Personally, I'm fine with it, but that's irrelevant. I'm in a totally different situation, and much older than you.)
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