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Good Morning all,

Haven't been on EF for ages! Been so busy with my son he will turn 2 in Nov! It's amazing how time flies. Just that day I was writing to you all here asking for support on how to deal with pregnancy related issues.

I have managed to secure a spot for my son in an international nursery for 5 days a week this however has got me thinking that I might want to pursue a career change. I currently hold a bachelors in business information technology and would like to move into teaching. Been researching and found Ph zurich it seems they do offer teaching courses however I'm not sure if it's in English or german

And that's what brought me here, any experience/ tips on how to go about it here in switzerland? Are there universities that provide such programs in English? If so, would I need to start from scratch or will they take my current bachelors in consideration? I would really appreciate your insights or comments on this matter.
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

PH Zurich is in German. They will recognise foreign degrees in combination with a certificate of C2-level german.

I honestly think that it will be tricky to find teacher training courses offered in English.
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

PH Bern is also in German…
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

I'd be very surprised if any PH in this country were teaching in anything other than the respective local language… After all, you would eventually be teaching to local students and not English-speaking ones...

And that is generally what you have consider, no matter which way you go. The only option I could imagine working is international schools, who might accept other, non-Swiss certifications. I have no idea, though, how fierce competition for such jobs are.
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

Maybe take an advanced degree course at a Swiss university with the aim of eventually teaching in a university, would all be in English but maybe too ambitious?
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Yourabsolute top priority for this year is to become as fluent as poss in German, in all skills (oral, aural, writing and reading comp)- to be a teacher in a state school, you have to have local qualifications done in the local official language- and you have to show proficiency in official language- as a teacher you have to deal with all sorts of situations, including security, etc- so even if you teach English, or IT, you have to be proficient, if not fluent, in local lang.
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Good Morning all,
I currently hold a bachelors in business information technology and would like to move into teaching. Been researching and found Ph zurich it seems they do offer teaching courses however I'm not sure if it's in English or german

And that's what brought me here, any experience/ tips on how to go about it here in switzerland? Are there universities that provide such programs in English? If so, would I need to start from scratch or will they take my current bachelors in consideration? I would really appreciate your insights or comments on this matter.
Suggest you write to them with your qualifications/CV and ask then if they require more, & request them to help you solve any issue to work for them.

Maybe I am wrong but believe for Phd English level might be very acceptable, but they would require some level of German for inter personnel.

all good wishes & good luck, do anticipate luck for your

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Re: Career change is it feasible?

If only I could count the number of times I have shifted, or considered a career-shift, since my first paper-route aged 10...and still wish time/money/prior qualifications and/or experience, not to mention references from previous employers no longer traceable or sharing this earthly existence...

Although I don't think you mentioned in your OP, have you narrowed down your interest to teaching any particular level or age group, or specifically the field in which you have your degree? By doing this you can look more closely at the requirements/opportunities for teaching to see how this might fit your idea.

Also, even though you have found a f/t Spielgruppe which will give you more time for endeavours other than child-raising, I would not underestimate the amount of mental and physical time your child will need in the coming years, and depending on your program there will be a lot of work to complete outside of classtime. If you are not currently working your partner's salary must be enough to cover the cost, which in many ways gives you more freedom to make a choice. Not that I am a huge fan of the SAHM predicament, but if one appreciates the privilege of being able to make deliberate decisions the outcome can be very rewarding on all fronts.

In one of my post-children career detours I decided I wanted to complete the training to be a fully-qualified Montessori teacher. As I have a few degrees I figured the academic side of things would be fine, but in reality although not very intellectually demanding it still required a near f/t commitment to complete assignments, etc. I became very stressed as I could tell I was not able to provide the same level of patience and support to my own children as a mother that one would expect from a Montessori teacher. In the end I withdrew from the course and used my time to take up other interests I had let wane. Now that they are older, and we are more geographically settled, studying again feels more manageable
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

I am pretty sure you can take a TEFL course in Zürich. That would enable you to teach English to adults, and then there are lots of levels within the TEFL such as business language etc. However its definitely a lot cheaper to do the course in the UK for a month.
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I am currently studying to be a teacher at PH FHNW (Pädagogische Hochschule Nordwestschweiz), the course is entirely in German, and it will be the same at PH Zurich, Berne, or Lucerne. I am working part time (45%) as a teacher already, and the demand on time is huge. For every course at the PH, I have another 2 hours/week of homework to do. I am currently only attending 6 courses. I don't think I would want to take this on with a 2 year old. My kids are 11 & 13 and even they feel that I am never home. I am mother tongue German, and the literature is very demanding as well. I don't think you could do it with anything less than a C2.
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I am pretty sure you can take a TEFL course in Zürich. That would enable you to teach English to adults, and then there are lots of levels within the TEFL such as business language etc. However its definitely a lot cheaper to do the course in the UK for a month.
Careful on the TEFL though. My sister is in that industry and was not able to find any reliable entry-level job in Switzerland, France or the UK.

My impression at the time was that you need at least 3 or 4 years experience in TEFL to really get a foot in the door in Switzerland.
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Re: Career change is it feasible?

Thank you all for your inputs and suggestions. I agree with what other mothers have stated above, caring for ones child is top priority. However I've been out of the work force for almost 4 yrs and getting exceedingly nervous about my chances to get back in. Yes, my husbands salary is good however id like to make my own money again, still not used to spending his, and would welcome an opportunity to feel there's more to me than just diapers and being covered in food stains. I will continue my research, and yes German has to be my number one priority. I must admit for 2yrs I was in denial hoping we would move back and afterwards I was extremely busy with my son. Maybe I could also look into volunteering.

Thank you all for your suggestions.
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I am currently studying to be a teacher at PH FHNW (Pädagogische Hochschule Nordwestschweiz), the course is entirely in German, and it will be the same at PH Zurich, Berne, or Lucerne. I am working part time (45%) as a teacher already, and the demand on time is huge. For every course at the PH, I have another 2 hours/week of homework to do. I am currently only attending 6 courses. I don't think I would want to take this on with a 2 year old. My kids are 11 & 13 and even they feel that I am never home. I am mother tongue German, and the literature is very demanding as well. I don't think you could do it with anything less than a C2.
I'm doing the Vaud equivalent at the moment, with 3 kids including a newborn. Overload doesn't even begin to describe my actual state...
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Could I return to dental school? Really tired of dealing with money driven dentists....

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I am not sure how helpful this will be for you, but it has proved to be helpful to a lot of my students when they come to a point in their lives when they keep changing their minds about their career paths.

Take this test.

From what my students tell me, it gives them a clearer view of where they want to be and for those who are not really interested in settling down to one job, they find that they get ideas on what else to pursue or try out.

It is win-win

I can't make my mind up for a career path, yet I alos couldn't take the test you posted. Do I have to pay for it? I think I need a career path that makes more money since I'm pretty cheap on spending :P
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