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Old 20.06.2016, 11:20
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

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Going in today to speak to the head and KG teacher.
Also to sign my son's report card, which I have been told she will not email to me in advance, I am invited to go and read it and sign it on the spot. I am not allowed to change it but may make amendments. My husband will not be there as I have to go at 2pm. Is this standard practice that my husband effectively isn't allowed to see it also? As I understand it, this report will follow him through school. I'm a bit concerned I won't pick up any nuances of language. Am I within my rights to take a picture of it to send to my husband?

Why can they not provide a copy of the school report to the parents? Is this normal?
First of all, kindergartners don't receive notes (marks/grades) so I wouldn't sweat the report card. It's an assessment that doesn't have much impact in the long run. Secondly, you are allowed to take pictures and send it to the father. Thirdly, I suspect they want to talk personally to you to clarify any issues immediately. A meeting at 2 o'clock is perfectly appropriate and has nothing to do with excluding your husband. From what I understand, you don't speak German well and would like this meeting to be in English. The school has teachers who have passed the Advanced exam in English so they should be able to supply you with an in-house interpreter, if needed.

Schools are usually very supportive of children and attempt to give fair assessments but as a parent, you still know your child best. Kindergarten is a time of significant child development and what was noted as a possible issue with your child quite often can be dismissed one-two years later. My son's kindergarten teacher thought he was hyperactive and should be put on homeopathic medicine. I nodded and then quickly ignored her advice. My son was fine and is now just finishing his commercial school exams.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

When my daughter was in Kindergarten we were shown her report in a meeting like this. It was explained to us and then we signed it. Actually, mostly it was only me as my husband was usually working. It wasn't until she started first class that reports were sent home or us to sign.

But, as Olygirl says, it won't have marks (notes as they're called in German) but rather descriptions of how your son has worked towards stated goals.

It will be placed in a folder, which will then be used for all his primary school results, but, for me, looking back now as the mother of a fifth class child, the comments from Kindergarten seem very long ago and of not much relevance.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

same experience for us. We met with the kindergarten teacher and it was from the first class that reports were sent home.

Remember that the Swiss way is to look at what the child fails at and comment on that for correction. If the child is doing well at something, they are less likely to comment and also if they do give praise it will be very muted compared with English speaking expectations. It is a cultural shock for parents used to the American or UK system.

If there really is a big problem then they will not put the child into the next level up and will have to explain their reasons together with a plan of action.

Try to remain as a partner with the school "let us together as a team help my child" as the Swiss hate conflict and will dig their heels in and "block" if confronted directly, especially if they know they are wrong.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

It's quite normal from my experience to have the meeting with the teachers where they talk through the child's progress and report/results, and spend the most part talking about which areas the child needs to work on or could improve, and how to achieve that.

It's normal then to get the proper official report right at the end of the school year, in the last week before summer break. This is pretty basic (1-3 pages) of checklists or small descriptions, and they have a folder. You read the reports, take a copy if you wish, sign the original (to confirm that you have read it) then the child takes it back to school again.

It does sound like you expect this report to somehow have consequences for the future. In my experience, it has very little impact and is just a 'point in time' based on a set frame of reference (the teacher's observations) and as quickly as the child's report is read, they have already moved on.

Although it may have a few developmental components, it is not a developmental assessment, and if your child is really struggling, then there is a second 'loop' for getting a referral to the school psychologist who will then do some proper developmental screening and then refer further to specialists who can do actual formal assessments for developmental or behavioural issues.

I know you've had a poor experience with the teacher, so this affects your perception of what is going to happen. But try to stay calm, as said, take an attitude of 'we can work on this together' and to understand what is needed in order for your child to flourish at school.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

Not only this is perfectly normal but it is also compulsory for the teacher to go through the report with you. A meeting at 2pm is also totally normal. Considering the teacher has to see all 20 parents or so within a small time frame, she's probably doing what she can!

Children have a small set of requirements they're supposed to have met by the end of kindergarten (it varies slightly between cantons), and the teacher will go through them with you and let you know how your kid is doing compared to that list. In Vaud, it includes being able to write your own name without a model, counting up to 20 and choosing 12 objects among a pack, for instance. Basic social skills are also evaluated.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

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My son's kindergarten teacher thought he was hyperactive and should be put on homeopathic medicine.
She was probably right, you know. Kids who are active need plenty of water.
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Re: Speak to KG teacher or see what happens? (long)

Kindergarten-Zeugnis (report card) has no marks. The meeting with your child's teacher is an opportunity to talk together about your child and its development.

It is also very informative for teachers and parents, because sometimes a child behaves really differently at home than in kindergarten. So both parties can talk and evaluate the next steps - if some are needed (DaZ, IF, some therapy) or if no measures need to be taken.

I always also invite the child because this way, the child is also allowed to tell how it feels in school, what they like and what they don't like.

Mostly the kids are super proud to be in Kindergarten with their parents and feel so knowledgeable when they show them their "workplace". They are able to show their parents their favorite plays or what we are learning at that time.

But this is optional - I do it because experience has taught me that the meetings are much more interesting for all parties if the children partake.

Most kids begin to play after a while and then the parents and I talk business. Sometimes children listen and want to have their say, too. Sometimes, they tell me about things I never realized, this is also very helpful for me.

It is also good for the children because they see their whole "educating team" talking together and getting on well.

Sometimes they tell me next day that they want to come over again soon, because they loved the meeting so much :-)
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