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Re: Second Bachelor in Switzerland

Hi, no need to worry too much then, it seems you did everything in the right way. Hope you get a positive reply from the Swiss authorities and start your studies. I won't be around here in this forum but I'll check this thread. Hope you update the thread with good news.
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Hi, no need to worry too much then, it seems you did everything in the right way. Hope you get a positive reply from the Swiss authorities and start your studies. I won't be around here in this forum but I'll check this thread. Hope you update the thread with good news.
Hi Serk,

Thanks very much !! I really hope that someone that passed through my case could reply this and maybe give me some more aditional advice, that kind of advice that some embassies do not say ...

And If I do get the Visa I will leave this Post (to future generations ... ) so maybe I can help other students that are having some troubles, too. I think it is kind of harder when the one who applies is from a non-Eu citizen (maybe is my imagination, but I think so )

Thanks very much for the support !!! I will keep on writing what about the decision !!!
Thanks !!!
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Re: Second Bachelor in Switzerland

Hi all !!

At last I received yesterday my Passport and I got my visa !!! Even though people from the embassy told me it was highly possible not to get it !!!

If any Non-EU student has some questions about student visas and all, please do not hesitate in writing me !! Gladly I will give my best to help-even though I am not an expert, I know how does it feel during this whole process !!!

Thanks all for the support and advice !!!

I have also another little question, if someone can help me pls.

When I open my account in Switzerland (when waiting for my Permit) do I need to show the 21,000 Franks in a bank account in Switzerland? Or was it only needed for my visa? I know that after when I want to renew my Permit (the next year probably) I will have to show that exactly amount, but now do i have to show the exactly amount when issuing my Permit? Do you know something ?
Because I want to use it already to pay the uni or some other things ...

I will really appreciate your advice, pls.

Regards to all the people that supported me !!! I am inmenselly grateful !!
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Re: Second Bachelor in Switzerland

HI!
congratulations! it gives me hope that you got your visa. I don;t think it's necessary to show the whole amount in a bank account. as far as i know, it's only necessary for getting the visa.
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Hi Ariaz,

Thanks for the info, I think the same too ! I hope it is true hehehe thanks for your advice
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When I open my account in Switzerland (when waiting for my Permit) do I need to show the 21,000 Franks in a bank account in Switzerland? Or was it only needed for my visa? I know that after when I want to renew my Permit (the next year probably) I will have to show that exactly amount, but now do i have to show the exactly amount when issuing my Permit? Do you know something ?
Because I want to use it already to pay the uni or some other things ...

I will really appreciate your advice, pls.

Regards to all the people that supported me !!! I am immensely grateful !!
I suppose you were asked to provide evidence that you are self-sustainable, that you are able to (basically) finance your life in Switzerland. They would not have granted you a visa, if there is a chance that you will file for social securities and therefore applying for tax payer's money.

So I suspect you will have to verify this for every new application; on whatever account. And of course you are expected to use this money for all of your daily purposes, especially study costs, rent, health insurance, food.

But be very aware that 21K CHF is an extremely low budget and you can only survive with it, when you live a real student's life!!! Apartment sharing (one room) in basic environments, cook very basic stuff (meat once a week?) or frequently eating at the mensa (especially no convenient/fast food, equals anyhow with expensive and –besides– bad diet), no eating out, no concerts, hardly any alcohol, no expensive excursions, no holidays outside of your home, no fancy clothing, ... etc. Just to give you a basic idea how hard this will be!!

So yes, you are expected to spend another 21K for the next year!!
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Re: Second Bachelor in Switzerland

Any_free12, Good news! Congrats!
As far as I know, X amount of money in your bank account type of things is required only for first-entry visa purposes.
I didn't know that you have to renew your permit every year (?).
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I suppose you were asked to provide evidence that you are self-sustainable, that you are able to (basically) finance your life in Switzerland. They would not have granted you a visa, if there is a chance that you will file for social securities and therefore applying for tax payer's money.

So I suspect you will have to verify this for every new application; on whatever account. And of course you are expected to use this money for all of your daily purposes, especially study costs, rent, health insurance, food.

But be very aware that 21K CHF is an extremely low budget and you can only survive with it, when you live a real student's life!!! Apartment sharing (one room) in basic environments, cook very basic stuff (meat once a week?) or frequently eating at the mensa (especially no convenient/fast food, equals anyhow with expensive and –besides– bad diet), no eating out, no concerts, hardly any alcohol, no expensive excursions, no holidays outside of your home, no fancy clothing, ... etc. Just to give you a basic idea how hard this will be!!

So yes, you are expected to spend another 21K for the next year!!
Hi Sublime ,

Thanks for your message
I am in fact staying with a relative, so I won't have to pay a room or food (thank God) so my expenses will be kind of lower
But I also have heard that students can work, like 15 hours per week, and even though that won't make me rich (obviously that is not the goal), I can add some to my account.. heheh that was my plan

But I was concerned that I had to show the 21k for obtainig the Permit, but if it is not so .. Ufffffff ... one less concern Thanks for the advice
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Any_free12, Good news! Congrats!
As far as I know, X amount of money in your bank account type of things is required only for first-entry visa purposes.
I didn't know that you have to renew your permit every year (?).
Hi Serk ,

Thaaaaaanks !! Yeees at last I didi it hehehe Thanks for ths constant support

And I really do hope I just needed the oney for the visa, and not for the Permit, that I will process when I arrive in Switzerland

And yes, a student need sto renew it every year showing that exact aount or more, so that you can keep on studying
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Re: Second Bachelor in Switzerland

Was the relative also your "sponsor" or you only showed self-funding?
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Hi Meerkat33,

I showed my own account, my relativ just gave me an invitation to her house so I can use her address and also live with her.

But I did not showed her like my sponsor, I was just wondering if I needed to show my economic sufficient during the Permit process in Switzerland but from what people comment here, I may not
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any_free12, They will only ask for proof of funds (I have just renewed) when you are renewing. Congratulations on your studies and try to enjoy all of the beautiful and FREE options in this lovely country.
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Hi LAsings

I really feel so blessed !!! Thanks for the info
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Hello any_free12,


Hey! I am in a similar situation (going for a second master degree at ETH Zurich). I have lots of questions. Can I message you or email you? Or I can post here too!
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Hello any_free12, danilins and everyone!

I have a similar situation but a little bit different.
I'm doing my Phd in Arts now but I'd like to completely change the field and enroll on a computer science bachelor degree after my defense (it's strange I know). But I'm afraid my permit won't be extended..I have been for 4 years in Switzerland, I also did my master here. I'm Russian, that means I might have more problems with permit than Europeans.

If you know something about a second bachelor after a phd for Russians in Switzerland, please tell me!
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all !!

At last I received yesterday my Passport and I got my visa !!! Even though people from the embassy told me it was highly possible not to get it !!!

If any Non-EU student has some questions about student visas and all, please do not hesitate in writing me !! Gladly I will give my best to help-even though I am not an expert, I know how does it feel during this whole process !!!

Thanks all for the support and advice !!!

I have also another little question, if someone can help me pls.

When I open my account in Switzerland (when waiting for my Permit) do I need to show the 21,000 Franks in a bank account in Switzerland? Or was it only needed for my visa? I know that after when I want to renew my Permit (the next year probably) I will have to show that exactly amount, but now do i have to show the exactly amount when issuing my Permit? Do you know something ?
Because I want to use it already to pay the uni or some other things ...

I will really appreciate your advice, pls.

Regards to all the people that supported me !!! I am inmenselly grateful !!
Hello,

Thanks you for sharing the updates regarding your application. I am in similar situation considering my previous BA being completely different than the one I intend to study, and my career background also be in management and art.

I have my BA in English Translation from Tehran, Iran and the program I am going to apply is in IT Management / Business, and it is offered fully in English in Basel. The only drawback along with my BA is my age which is 27 at the moment. However, I find you story very inspiring and think I should have a go at it.

What do you think and how can we stay in touch if any further question arises?

Warmly,
Sina
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Hi Danilins.
I just came back to my initial post... sorry for the late response. Sure you can write here i can gladly try to give my beat advise )

Hooe everything went smooth

Regards,
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Hi Ritberg.
Im sorry I could not answer you earlier...
Hope everything went well.

I can share a bit of my experience. I came for a Bachelor in Economics at UZH. But then I felt it was taking a lot of time and changed to a Master in International Business and then even another Master🙈🙈. And I believe as long as you can show (for non EU) your 21k and to be always following the rules, having an insurance, etc... it would/should be okay.

But something I would highlight is that we as Non Eu people/students cannot stay more than 7/8 years studying in Switzerland (during my second Master I received a letter from Migrations office telling me to stop applying for Programs hahaha 😂😂😂cause I was on my 7th year and that they would not allowed me for another one)

In my case I wanted very much to work at a real office in Switzerland after studying. And was almost been an eternal student. But at the same time i gathered a lot of experience understanding the system for non eu, and getting used to this beautiful country. And I mean understanding the system because for example, I knew we could also work for 15 Hours a week after the first semester of studies. But my former boss did not know that. And was at the beginning quiet complicated.

And I am very very honest, it is so hard to get a student job. You really need a boss that would fight for your permit!!! (Even as a student) My job was a nanny for several years, and I needed the job so I could maintain myself in this beautiful (but expensive) country.
I applied to so many jobs, seller, flyer distributer, cooking, etc... and no one wanted to give me the opportunity. At that time they told me that it was easier to get someone with Working Permit. (In our cases our employer needs to request one).

Till this family came- and even to be a nanny, I needed to have this working permit.

Moreover we as students are not allowed to do any intership or praktika. (Unless you can somehow try to get an special document from your university) - but almost no hope on this side.

Do I regret any part of this amazing journey? Not at all. I came almost 8 years to this country with no direct family (the person who gave me at first a room, was my former au pair family)

And in my last year studying my second Master. I got an student Job at a Bank. And my hopes increased to not just gather experience, but telling me that maybe it is possible to get a Job as a Non-Eu for who you are (and not because you got married, that is one of the most common reasons I hear non Eu people working at Switzerland) - with this i do not disregard at all the hard working several Non Eu people does in Switzerland (with a married Permit) - but the difference between people that want to work and are not married is quiet abismal...

I will try to be more active in the group. So if anyone has any concerns, maybe I can somehow be of help.

Warm Regards,
Any
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