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Re: ADHD and Swiss schools

ecb, thank you for replying again and explaining further. I'm not permitted to thank you in the usual way yet!

I was more naive about the topic before I moved here, and that was due to our previous school. We didn't choose it, we were living in the catchment when our oldest started school. So we had no idea whatsoever that we'd lucked into one of the most highly regarded public schools in Canberra, with a big waiting list for "out of area" enrolments. Nor did we realise how fortunate my children were to be integrated into it until other parents told us how polite, kind and tolerant our kids always acted.

That school instituted a program that taught the children and teachers alike how to relate to, and cope with, children with special needs. It was necessary to ensure a safe and inclusive environment across the school. They walked their talk, and it worked really well. My kids then had quite a difficult time getting used to the Swiss mainstream, where there is almost no instruction in the higher level social skills kids need to manage with a SEN peer.

We have just about given up trying to describe their previous school to their Swiss teachers. The teachers here don't want to know about it. I suspect they feel like we are criticising them. We probably are, but it isn't intended that way. We were trying to help them understand where and how our children were socialised. Gah!

Our old Aussie school did a great job managing with the SEN kids, but they were almost all only mildly disordered and had a good prognosis. They also had nowhere else to go. There were private schools, but few of them were set up for SEN. There were also special schools, but they truly were segregated. A child eligible for one of those schools was only ever going to attend that school.

And as you say, ecb, what is good about the CH system is that a child can come and go from the special schools as necessary. If my Miss B settles down and learns properly, she too will be allowed back in the mainstream. Great to hear that your boy is coming back part time, he's obviously come a very long way to get there!
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Re: ADHD and Swiss schools

First, dear RTN, thanks for sharing your experience.

Dear Rama, we are in the Zürich area as RTN. We are still in a same process. Our son need to take med otherwise they couldn't handle him. We went for a psychiatrist. Now I learned that a psychiatrist has no relation to the City. So you need to go to the Schulpsychologische Dienst. The Spd is able to declare your son is not fitting in the current school and then the city Zürich will support for private schooling (not Sonder schooling). Depending on its needs it can be Kleingruppenunterricht or Montessori or Rudolf Steiner.

The thing is that our son is bright and since he takes meds not a problem for the teacher. He is bullied for months now. But apparently only if I would take him of the ritalin and let things escalate there is a way out. While we can't afford private schooling.
But he, telling us he wants to die, wants to be normal, has gone through so much and has no selfesteem left that we would not let things escalate.

Kids with special needs have the right to get a 'Beistand'. This is a coach when kids (or adults) need help in their current surroundings. For this kids it means school.

We are happy to have joined ELPOS, a ADHD expert verein and they have parent groups all over.

Well I hope it gives some new info.
And I am curious to hear more from others too.
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Re: ADHD and Swiss schools

Hi Robbi64,


We are in the same Situation with my son, so can we liaise (via PM) about the School your daughter is attending? This can help me a lot.


Many thanks in advance!
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Hi Rama

I feel for you. Our situations are not the same, but my youngest child has Asperger's syndrome and flunked out of Swiss mainstream kindergarten. We are in the canton of Zurich.

She now attends a small special school and it has been really good for her. In time, I hope she will be secure enough within herself to be able to return to the mainstream system. The special school has a class size of six children, and that enables her to receive the extra attention she really needs.

My girl is also very clever and she too has proved difficult to teach because of it. The teachers encourage her to extend herself in all sorts of ways, because they have the time, skills and resources to do so. We have no regrets about the transfer.

I wish you and your boy all the best.
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Hi Rama,

Sent you a DM with some info.

Hoping things get better soon,
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Hi Swati,

This is borabora,not Rama��Could you please send me a dm?Most probably the one you have sent,went to Rama,not me.Many thanks in advance and best regards
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Sent you a DM with some info.

Hoping things get better soon,
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Hi Swati,

This is borabora,not Rama��Could you please send me a dm?Most probably the one you have sent,went to Rama,not me.Many thanks in advance and best regards QUOTE=Cactina;2867228]Hi Rama,

Sent you a DM with some info.

Hoping things get better soon,
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The blaming game in a non-confrontational culture like Switzerland leads to the passive agressive "wall" tactics everybody on EF is familiar with. In Switzerland, if you blame, you loose. It's sad, it's unfair, but it's unavoidable.

Wow, this very aptly describes my experience as translator in countless parent-teacher meetings!!!
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