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Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

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I will move to Switzerland this summer and I need help with finding a good school in Zuchwil / Solothurn for my 2 kids: 8 and 6.

I am thinking about an international school or bilingual school, but I did not find any info about tuition.

The other option would be the public school, but I am afraid they will forget the English language which is not their mother tongue.

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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Tuition fees will be around 25,000-30,000 a year per child so may be outside your budget.

I found this one by googling, but I'm always suspicious of any school who can't tell you how much it'll cost to teach your child.

http://is-so.ch/en/concept/

Public school should be find. You can continue to speak English with them and they'll be taught English during their latter school years.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

As Medea said, public school should be fine.
Maybe have your kids attend an ESL class 1-2x/week to 'maintain' the English language. That would be much cheaper than going to an IS.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Thank you Maypril and Medea Fleecestealer for your input. The more I research the more I realize public school will be the option for us.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

I also need to decide where to look for schools : in Zuchwil or Solothurn.

Any suggestions on that?

I found a website for the Zuchwil school but its in German and I don't understand anything.

www.schulen-zuchwil.ch

I know that Migros offers German classes for adults. Is that the case for kids too?

I do not have much time!!
The other question I have is:
Can I enroll my kids to school after the school starts?

Any of you lives in Zuchwil or Solothurn? If you have any advice for the relocation please advice.

Thank you!!!
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Hi Letssee,

I've lived just outside of Solothurn for nearly 10 years, and I absolutely love it.
I decided to live in a small village instead of directly in Solothurn so my daughter could walk to and from school with ease, and so she could have lots of green spaces for playing and just being a kid. I decided against Zuchwil because it didn't appeal to me visually. I wanted the alp views. If my daughter were a bit older when we moved, I'd live in the heart of the old town (altstadt) without hesitation. Here's a link to a virtual tour of the old town.

Here are a few questions which would help me give you better advice:
1. Would you use a car on a daily basis? (Parking is an issue in Solothurn)
2. How important is it to you to be involved in local activities?
3. Preferences towards urban/suburban/rural living?
4. Is this a short-term or long-term move?


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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Hi ZenAgent,

The answers to your questions:

1. Would you use a car on a daily basis? (Parking is an issue in Solothurn)

Probably no car for the beginning and as far as I know it is easy to travel by bus and train. We come from the US and here without a car you are paralysed, but I grow up in Europe and we had no car and that was fine. I could easily get used to it again and it would be even easier and probably less expensive.
I lived 12 years in the US and I always missed walking everywhere. I think it would not be a problem.

2. How important is it to you to be involved in local activities?

I do not speak German, just a couple of words. I did learn the language for 4 years but I forgot everything. It will come back and I want to learn as much as I can and as fast as I can. Being part of a moms club, by taking classes it will come true.
I do not like to be isolated, but also I am not a quiet person who makes new friends harder then years ago.
I am also thinking how could I get involved in local activities if I don't speak the language. Unless I meet English speakers.

3. Preferences towards urban/suburban/rural living?

I have no preference except good schools for my kids and I can't wait to walk everywhere. Not too far from Zuchwil so my husband could have a short commute to work.
We like to bike and hike and a pretty view would make relocation somewhat easier. I hope.

4. Is this a short-term or long-term move?

It is a long term move. I worry a bit though. It will be another new start and this time with kids and no German.

Still researching about schools. I would prefer to be closer to the school then to my husbands work.
I assume we need to look for the school first and then a place to live close to it. Probably will go with the public school because international schools are way too expensive. I would like them to be with English speaker so they will not forget it. Very worried that they will have a hard time in school if they don't speak German. Here public schools have a program for English as second language and that was very helpful for them. Do public schools in Switzerland have similar programs.

Maypril wrote that my kids could take ESL class 1-2x/week to 'maintain' the English language. That would be much cheaper than going to an IS.
Do you know who offers these classes?

If you could share your knowledge about everything that involves schools I would appreciate it.

Please excuse me if I am repeating myself. I just found out about the move yesterday and I am a bit panicked but exited in the same time.

Thank you Zen.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

1. Well, again this could depend on where you end up living. Out in the sticks there may be a pretty good bus service during the week as we have here, but at weekends the service drops off. Which makes connection timings a bit difficult if you want to go somewhere by other transport.

3/4. Well, you don't really get a choice of school. Where you live decides where your children will go to school as they'll be assigned a place by the gemeinde school administration. But schools here are pretty good with language integration for foreigners and they should pick up the language pretty quickly. Obviously when you get ready to rent a place permanently then it's worth checking with the gemeinde on exactly what support they do offer before you sign the rental contract. And make sure you have someone who can translate for you for things like rental, mobile phone contracts, insurance policy, etc, because you're unlikely to find them issued in English.

Some other things to be aware of - I assume as you've lived in the US for so long you have a Green Card/citizenship? Is there a spouse/partner also making the move who's a US citizen or Green Card holder? If so, then you need to be aware that you'll have continuing US tax filing obligations.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/inte...-aliens-abroad

It will also make it difficult for you to get a bank account here due to the US's FATCA law - UBS, Credit Suisse and PostFinance are likely your only options. You'll need to sign W-9 forms to allow the bank to send the account details on to the IRS. And if any foreign account or accounts comes to an aggregate figure of more than $10,000 at any time of the year then this also needs to be reported on an FBAR form.

There's plenty of info in the various sticky threads here on the forum and I also suggest you order a copy of "Living and Working in Switzerland" by David Hamsphire. It's full of useful info for both before and after you move. You can order it from your local bookshop or via the internet.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Thank you Medea Fleecestealer!

I am still confused where to start.

Find the location we like and go to the assigned school. That in case there is no significant difference between schools.

or

If I could find out (not sure how) which public school is better and then pick the location. Do schools have ratings?

I read a long time ago (at our first attempt to relocate) that some schools also offer swimming lessons. Not sure about other extracurricular activities.

So my question is: how did you all start?

During vacation could we visit the schools?

Thanks again!
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

No, schools don't have ratings as there's no parental choice about where their kids go to school.

I doubt the schools will be open during the holidays, depends on when they break up. Our last day is Friday, 7th July. Not sure when they start back, but probably the 3rd or 4th week of August. But again this varies so you'd need to check with the gemeinde. If the school isn't open they might be able to put you in touch with a teacher possibly who could give you some info.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Hi Letssee,

I spoke to my daughter who has been in both primary and secondary school in the area. She said DO NOT choose any school in Zuchwil, as they're at the bottom in terms of performance. There are some tests that are taken throughout the Kanton (county) and the schools are informed of where they stand in comparison. I'm not sure if that information is easily found publicly, but her teachers always share it with the class.

She said any of the other schools in Solothurn proper and surrounding areas are good. She is friends with kids in a few different schools. Almost all have english classes weekly as part of their curriculum as of 4th grade and continues until graduation.

There seems to be events happening in Solothurn every week throughout the year, from open air film nights, bike events, literature days, and a big fall festival, not to metion Carnival in the spring. That being said, here are areas where I would focus your search based on what you answered:

Anything in the Solothurn Altstadt - keep in mind it's vertical living and old buildings, so stairs will become your fitness. Schools are large with plenty of kids / classes per age group. Housing is primarily historic... individually owned apartments for let.

Solothurn Vorstadt - this is everything across the river from the Altstadt. Generally a bit less expensive, a bit newer, but still charming. Walking distance to the Altstadt: 3-5 minutes. Distance to train station: 2-3 minutes.
Schools similar in size to the Altstadt. Housing is similar to the Altstadt with a few multi-family apartment bulidings mixed in.

Solothurn City West / Allmend - I don't know much about the area as I don't really go there; it's on the opposite side of Solothurn from me. I know the rental prices are much less expensive and there are more multi-unit high rise apartment buildings in the area. Walking distance to the Altstadt: 10-15 minutes. There are plenty of bus and some train connections from there to the main stations.

Steingruben Quartier / Solothurn Sternen: Suburban feeling neighborhoods with historic charm and plenty of green spaces. Primarily single family homes and historic homes divided into smaller individually owned apartments. Excellent schools, smaller class sizes, highly sought after neighborhoods. Relatively expensive housing prices. Walking distance to the Altstadt: 3-5 minutes or less depending on location. Plenty of busses, train+bus route in Sternen.

Bellach / Langendorf / Oberdorf: These areas are behind/above Solothurn going toward the base of the Jura Mountain. They're a mix of suburban and rural. The towns are less populated and the schools are smaller. I have friends in Langendorf and they have alp views and a big shopping center there. There's no trains on this side of the city, but plenty of bus routes. It's also about 50/50 multi-family apartment buildings and single family homes, which are usually very modern. Walking distance to the Altstadt 15-25 minutes depending on the village. Oberdorf is the highest altitude of all the neighborhoods with views of the city, alps and river. It's 90% single family homes and very expensive. The schools are very good. There's not much of a rental market though.

Feldbrunnen / Riedholz / Luterbach / Flumenthal: These villages are very suburban to rural neighborhoods. Each has a small shop a restaurant and a Post office. I've lived in two of the four neighborhoods and can highly reccommend each. The school sizes are very small. Each grade usually has one class. Feldbrunnen is the most expensive but has the lowest local taxes. Most areas are quiet family neighborhoods with playgrounds and woodlands. All are on the regional train line which runs from Solothurn to Langenthal and back again with 2 trains per hour and 2 bus stops per hour in each direction (they're staggered so that there's one of the two going to and from town every 15 minutes). Walking distance to the Altstadt +/- 30 minutes depending on the village. Distance by car is 3 to 4 minutes. The only downside is it can sometimes feel isolating until one gets to know the neighbors or other parents.



Regarding the move, the kantonal school administration office for all of Solothurn and surrounding areas is in the Atlstadt and open during the summer months:

Volksschulamt
St. Urbangasse 73
4509 Solothurn
Telefon 032 627 29 37
Fax 032 627 28 66
vsa@dbk.so.ch
Öffnungszeiten:
Montag - Donnerstag
08:00 - 11:30 / 13:30 - 17:00
Freitag
08:00 - 11:30 / 13:30 - 16:00

You can type this link into google translate and put it into english.


If you're planning a trip over ahead of the move, PM me and I'll see if I can help with translating if I'm not on holiday.


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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Thank you ZenAgent,

Great info. I checked out (on the map) the places you recommended to have an idea where these places are. I also looked on homegate.ch to see what I can find.
I will also read the translation of the schools website see if that helps.

The other issue that we have is that we might not be able to move there by August. That means kids will not be able to start the school year in time.
Could that be an issue for the school?Any suggestions on that?

And now to make my life even harder we are thinking about going closer to Bern or Zurich, but not further than 20-30 min from Zuchwil?
At this point I am absolutely not sure what would be best for our family smaller or bigger town.

Thanks again and the research continues!!!!
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Are you goung to use a car or public transport to commute? If public transport you have to factor in wait times at transfer spots. There are buses from Solothurn Station to Zuchwil on a regular basis. Any places on rail lines to Solothurn might work. If by car, keep in mind that traffic is really slow during rush hour on the highways around Solothurn. There are traffic jams due to volume quite often. The areas around Solothurn are lovely, but fairly rural. Solothurn itself is a lovely walkable small city. Depends what you prefer.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Just to add, not arriving by August is not a problem at all. As soon as you have an address the kids will be allocated to a school. The sooner they have that info the better, so they can put supports for German in place.
Also English is taught in Solothurn and Berne public schools from grade 5, French from Grade 3. There are private English classes available in Solothurn for younger children once or twice a week, if you want to keep their English current until then.
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Re: Zuchwill/Solothurn schools

Thank you swisscanmom!!!

That is valuable information.
I am glad that schools offer foreign languages.

About commute: walking or biking to work would be a dream come true, but driving or getting bus/train would not be a problem either. As long as commute is less then 30 min.

We will probably will be assigned a real estate agent to help out with the relocation process. Any advice on that?
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Only bring what you REALLY need. Throw anything else. Moving is a GREAT way to get rid of thousands of things you collected but never really used.

Swiss apartments on average aren't huge, but very comfortable (usually modern kitchens, bathrooms, in good conditions) - and especially in summer people love to do BBQ outside or on the balcony. A flat offering a nice, big, balcony is something you might really want to look for.

Regarding schools, I think everything has been said already. You move to place X (any time of the year), you get assigned your kids to the "matching" school for place X.

Also, school "levels" don't vary THAT much as in other countries. Even a school on the "lower end" will still provide VERY decent education. And for free (or almost free), all the way to either university or apprenticeship (which most Swiss have, by the way, and which is a MUCH better approach than forcing everyone to pay $$$$$ to get a university degree to only get a chance of a reasonable job..)

Your kids will probably take a few months to pick up enough German to join the regular classes, but schools take care well of that. They're luckily still in an age where they should be able to catch up just fine, probably even without dropping a year (and even that wouldn't be the end of it - at the end of the education, from my experience the majority of classes don't have the exact age group (year) that could have been.

International schools really (mostly) are for expats who don't plan on settle in Switzerland for a long period, but want to move soon again. In that case, a public school doesn't make much sense. But if you plan to stay here for (at least) several years, public schools are the way to go. You can send the kids to TONS of interesting courses. And English isn't really a language that you "forget" that quick once you get a certain level.

Also, all national television channels show international serials and movies in their native (mostly English) language. Just set your TV to "original/second language channel" and you can watch all your favourites in English. It's a good way to keep kids language skills I guess.
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Only bring what you REALLY need. Throw anything else. Moving is a GREAT way to get rid of thousands of things you collected but never really used.
That was exactly my thinking too.

I am just wondering how much furniture should we bring with us. I checked the Ikea website and prices are the same.

What is really worth transporting overseas?
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That was exactly my thinking too.

I am just wondering how much furniture should we bring with us. I checked the Ikea website and prices are the same.

What is really worth transporting overseas?

I brought one car, a California king sized bed and mattress, all sports equipment, and all of my curtains. That's it. Everything else can be bought at Ikea or use Tutti or the EF Marketplace for second hand furniture.
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That was exactly my thinking too.

I am just wondering how much furniture should we bring with us. I checked the Ikea website and prices are the same.

What is really worth transporting overseas?
Depends on the cost I guess and how fond you are of your goods, but here's a thread from a few years ago.

Cost of filling an apartment with Ikea furniture = 3200 CHF

Prices are probably a bit higher now, but if your transportation costs come close to what you'd have to pay for new stuff then I'd suggest starting afresh with new. I wish I'd been able to persuade my hubby to do so. Instead we moved 10 tonnes of stuff to Switzerland and still have most of it.
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OP, remember to also bring relevant accessories, e.g. duvet cover in this example (the US are inch/yard based whereas [continental?] Europe uses the metric system everywhere). There are bound to be differences, some small others big, some of which may be completely irrelevant while others may render the main item effectively useless.

Likewise for electric appliances and electronics: The US use 110/120 volts vs. Europe's 230 volts. So unless a device is adjustable you probably need a transformer on this side of the pond for whatever you bring.
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