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Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

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Could anyone help me with this item? We found Ina website saying that the schoo is mandatory once the kid is 6, completed until end of April. But what what I didn't get is the mandatory issue for KG. Is it mandatory that they are signed up into one or it is the same thing as in school, not being able to make longer vacations, needing to justify absence, etc?
And if KG mandatory with no possibility of extra vacations, is there a possibility of homeschooling?

The question is because we usually spend 2months in Brazil in Christmas time and wouldn't want to start skipping it already (our daughter is 4). In Germany it is only school mandatory, starting with 6.

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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Depends on the canton.

Here, it as mandatory as of one's third birthday (albeit only half days the first year)

Up north, it's 4 or so.

Also, most cantons do not allow home schooling.

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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

But not being able to skip days or longer vacations? So early? ��
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Are you sure the website you looked at has current information? In most cantons Kindergarten is now mandatory. Whether you can take a Kindergarten child out of school for 2 months will depend on the school. Even within the same canton how they handle this will be different. My sister was recently able to take her ( older) kids out for 3 weeks for a trip. So it is possible in some schools.
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But not being able to skip days or longer vacations?
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So early? ��
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

This may help a bit.

http://www.edk.ch/dyn/16342.php

I doubt even for kindergarten you'd be able to be absent from school for 2 months. You might manage a month if you took the 2 weeks of Christmas/New Year and the school allowed you to add another 2 weeks, but it's entirely down to the school if that would be possible or not. You might be restricted to just the 2 weeks over Christmas/New Year.

You need to check with the relevant canton whether home schooling would be allowed or not. Each canton is responsible for its own schooling criteria and as st2lemans said, not all allow it. If you do a search of this part of the forum (top righthand corner where the forum sub-heading is) that will call up several threads re home schooling.
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

This such a pitty... thanks though!
We might considering staying in the border then.

Is this a law? What is the explanation for this? I really don't get it...
My husband worked in Luxembourg and it is also like this, even the teachers/most KG disagrees, they just follow because of the law...

Thanks anyway 🙏🏻

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Depends on the canton.

Here, it as mandatory as of one's third birthday (albeit only half days the first year)

Up north, it's 4 or so.

Also, most cantons do not allow home schooling.

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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

What do you mean by staying in the border? Will you/your spouse be a cross border commuter into Switzerland for work? Because unless you/your spouse is a German national or has permanent residency in Germany it won't be possible.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...willigung.html

Also you would have to have lived in a border zone for at least 6 months to be able to get a G (cross border) permit if you/your spouse is a non-EU national.
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

He is german and I have the german citizenship. Living in Germany would be not practical , but legal. ��
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Ah good, that won't be a problem then. Why put Brazilian down in your profile as your nationality though? Didn't you have to give that up when you became German? Or were/are your parents German?
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

I am Brazilian, with no german parents whatsoever. But I got the citizenship because of the marriage. And I have both citizenships... ��
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Ah, I see according to Wiki that Brazilian citizens can't give up their citizenship except in a few circumstances so Germany allows dual citizenship for their nationals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...German_citizen

I would amend your profile to include the German if you want to ask more questions about living and working in Switzerland. That way you won't get answers which apply to non-EU nationals, but not to EU ones.
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Hi!

Could anyone help me with this item? We found Ina website saying that the schoo is mandatory once the kid is 6, completed until end of April. But what what I didn't get is the mandatory issue for KG. Is it mandatory that they are signed up into one or it is the same thing as in school, not being able to make longer vacations, needing to justify absence, etc?
And if KG mandatory with no possibility of extra vacations, is there a possibility of homeschooling?

The question is because we usually spend 2months in Brazil in Christmas time and wouldn't want to start skipping it already (our daughter is 4). In Germany it is only school mandatory, starting with 6.

Many thanks



KG is mandatory in Switzerland - for long vacations you have to try private schools
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In most cantons Kindergarten is now mandatory. Whether you can take a Kindergarten child out of school for 2 months will depend on the school. Even within the same canton how they handle this will be different. My sister was recently able to take her ( older) kids out for 3 weeks for a trip. So it is possible in some schools.
You can always ask - but it is entirely up to the Schulgemeinde. Kindergarten is mandatory - it belongs to mandatory school - and children have to go there.

Note that Kindergarten is free of charge but don't mix it up with the term Kindergarten in some other countries - like Germany - where it is not mandatory. Kindergarten here is not full time care. Children go to Kindergarten for about 4 hours in the morning and or or two afternoons for about two hours. No meals provided - you'll need a Hort space for the missing hours.

You can always take your child out of school. One of my colleagues - a Kindergarten teacher herself - has taken her kids out of school for a five months world trip. But when you come back of the trip, the children might likely be put into another Kindergarten when you come back - especially if some other kids have moved into the catching area and will have taken their places.

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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Language acquisition is so important at that stage- Kindergarten is the ideal time for a child who does not speak the local language to acquire those skills before 'school proper' begins, with formal reading and writing.

It costs the Gemeinde and the tax payer a LOT of money, time and effort, and extra staffing- to help foreing children to acquire the necessary language skills so they can keep up with their peers.
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Re: Mandatory school age/ Kindergarten?

Language Is not an issue... they speak german and Portuguese as main languages and can understand English. Unless they start with French also in KG, I don't see an absolute need of avoiding long vacations because of that (while not in school, obviously).
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(while not in school, obviously).
Kindergarten in Switzerland is SCHOOL. The first two years of school are called Kindergarten and Kindergarten is compulsory. I wrote before that Kindergarten in Germany and Kindergarten here mean two very different things.

As I wrote beforehand: you can take them out of school - "abmelden" is the term for that.

But note that they might likely put into an other class or they will have to repeat a year if teachers think they are too much behind the curriculum.

Kindergarten teaches the initial competences to be able to start with reading, maths, writing, social education and so on. Competences your children will need to start first grade.

Having children in school limits your freedom. Something parents have to accept.
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What is the explanation for this? I really don't get it...
So that every child gets the same level and amount of education and more or less same chances or at least starting point in life maybe?
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In Kanton Aargau a child must have turned 4 by April 30 to begin Kindergarten. This cut off date is going to be changed to July 31 by the 2018/2019 school year.

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Having children in school limits your freedom. Something parents have to accept.
No, they do not have to.
Home schooling is allowed in e.g canton AG.
And also in ZH, but for one year only.
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