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Amount of pocket money

Hello All,

How much pocket money should we give our 13 year old teen daughter?
She goes to the local school and it seems here in Switzerland all the Swiss teenagers are quite spoiled.
Currently we give her CHF 50 a week which she spends on clothes, food and drink outside, going out with her friends.
Now she claims that her friends get up to CHF 100 a week, which for me is absolutely ridiculous!!! As per me CHF 50 is enough for a week...
The thing is though here all the local kids are spoiled. She was also asking for a better phone (currently she has the samsung s4). She wanted an iPhone 7/8 and also claims her friends have this phone.
She wears all branded stuff like her friends (these expensive Nikes and stuff)

What do we do?
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Re: Amount of pocket money

200/month, including clothes, etc. is what I gave mine, so 50/week sounds right.

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Hello All,

How much pocket money should we give our 13 year old teen daughter?
She goes to the local school and it seems here in Switzerland all the Swiss teenagers are quite spoiled.
Currently we give her CHF 50 a week which she spends on clothes, food and drink outside, going out with her friends.
Now she claims that her friends get up to CHF 100 a week, which for me is absolutely ridiculous!!! As per me CHF 50 is enough for a week...
The thing is though here all the local kids are spoiled. She was also asking for a better phone (currently she has the samsung s4). She wanted an iPhone 7/8 and also claims her friends have this phone.
She wears all branded stuff like her friends (these expensive Nikes and stuff)

What do we do?
If you feel so strongly then why are you questioning yourself? 50chf per week is plenty for a young teenager who should only be going out and spending money on weekends during the day. She should be made to respect the money she is given and that can only come from you. As for the iPhone 7/8, you know full well that is a ridiculous request... kids will always compare themselves to their peers and want to fit in or risk being made fun of, but sometimes those wants are just unrealistic and just because other kids have parents who spoil them rotten doesn't mean you have to.

In summary, have some backbone, stick to your principles and brook no nonsense... she is a child not an adult and how much of a spoiled brat she turns into depends almost solely on you. There are many systems out there that parents have devised for a kid to learn some responsibility and earn money via household chores etc... google them and see if they fit.
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Re: Amount of pocket money

Hi, yes I remember that conversation with my parents growing up too.

In the family clubs, there are lists for teenagers to babysit kids in the neighbourhood. While I cannot comment on how teens use their money, I find that I can help give them what they need with a healthy conscience with babysitting or homework tutoring jobs for my kids. They can get first aid training with the family club, usually their parents are involved in their first encounters with new families they will work in, so it is a safe environment.

The pay is between CHF10-15 per hour, and usually during their weekends or Wednesdays. I rotate between two babysitters, and when I have kids' parties, I ask them to bring a friend to help out.

Maybe this can help move away from the discussion with teens on how much, and helps with how to?
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Re: Amount of pocket money

If she wants to spend more money than she "earns" she needs to make sure she earns more money like almost everybody in this world has to do. Doing the neighbours garden, babysitting etc.. It's how the world rolls and a good lesson for a 13 year old to start learning that money does not come for free.

And tbh, latest iPhone, only expensive brands for clothing etc, let her earn some of her own money so she knows the value of it. When I was 13 I got new cloths, but to save money I also wore cloths from two of my slightly older nephews, I collected old paper and metals, I bought bikes to repair them and sell them again, I would not dare asking my parents to buy me the computer I wanted.
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Re: Amount of pocket money

A main point of giving pocket money is that a child can develop a sense of managing their own finances. If you don't support them at 13, then I seriously doubt they will get enough support to help them realise a good grasp going forward, and once they are independent.

I personally made the distinction at this age between what I paid for (clothes and other essentials), and the small pocket money that a 13 year old needs for going out with friends, lunch etc. Can't remember the amount, but it was small. CHF 100 per week seems ridiculous to me - I would never let my child go into never-never land at this age with so much money.

I always questioned my daughter on whether this amount was enough - I would have increased it if not - and she was always fine with it. She now still takes great joy (experience and good professional feedback) at 22 with having good additional income while working one day a week and studying at the same time.
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Re: Amount of pocket money

50 a WEEK at 13?!?!

Mine is 11, and he gets 5.-/week, and it seems to be the norm in our parts. Anyway most weeks he doesn’t even use it
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50 a WEEK at 13?!?!

Mine is 11, and he gets 5.-/week, and it seems to be the norm in our parts. Anyway most weeks he doesn’t even use it
You probably pay for a bunch of things that are included in the 50,- If you would add those things to the 5,- I wonder how small the difference might be.
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100CHF/week? I take it those kids are paying rent out of that!
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Re: Amount of pocket money

250chf a month. But they just saved it. Somehow my kids had resistance to peer pressure and popular culture. I blame the parents.
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Re: Amount of pocket money

if you don't nip issue in the bud the problem will only be cultivated

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...e_iOSApp_Other

I had to do p/t jobs for my money both while in school and at university - at age 13 childsitting is most likely option but I would insist that she has certain chores/home responsibilities for the 50sfr as well
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Re: Amount of pocket money

We don't give pocket money.

I do pay the mobile phone, 45 a month all-in for my teenage.

Every two years, she changes her iphone. She uses her birthday and christmas money from family and we give her a fair price for her old (2years) phone, which my wife uses till the next time. Her choice and honestly i'm not surprised.

We always pay for her clothes and as a result, we're usually involved in helping her choose.

She occasionally asks for money to go out with friends. The answer depends roughly on her behaviour at home and school. She is sometimes disappointed. I cancelled her netflix when she was quite rude and she still remembers.
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Hello All,

How much pocket money should we give our 13 year old teen daughter?
She goes to the local school and it seems here in Switzerland all the Swiss teenagers are quite spoiled.
Currently we give her CHF 50 a week which she spends on clothes, food and drink outside, going out with her friends.
Now she claims that her friends get up to CHF 100 a week, which for me is absolutely ridiculous!!! As per me CHF 50 is enough for a week...
The thing is though here all the local kids are spoiled. She was also asking for a better phone (currently she has the samsung s4). She wanted an iPhone 7/8 and also claims her friends have this phone.
She wears all branded stuff like her friends (these expensive Nikes and stuff)

What do we do?
Sounds very much like you are being taken for a ride!!! Have you not discussed this at the parent teacher meeting. Here it would be CHF 7.00 per week. In my experience here in the village, Swiss kids are very carefully with their money!
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Re: Amount of pocket money

My 12 year old gets 7 a week, plus lunch money, now she's at gymi, of 30chf (two lunches she buys, two subsidised at school, one at home), but which she can only use for lunch. We pay for clothes etc. If she goes to meet a friend I'll give her money for food and maybe something extra, depending on how generous I'm feeling.

Of her friends, most seem to get something similar, some more, and some less. I think it's good for them to start to realise that not all families approach these things in the same way.

Poor girl also has my old iPhone 4S!
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50 a WEEK at 13?!?!

Mine is 11, and he gets 5.-/week, and it seems to be the norm in our parts. Anyway most weeks he doesn’t even use it

My 14 yer old gets 8 chf a week, but only if she cleans the bathroom that week.
If she doesn't clean, she gets nothing.
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My 14 yer old gets 8 chf a week, but only if she cleans the bathroom that week.
If she doesn't clean, she gets nothing.
A measly 8chf for cleaning an entire bathroom? Jesus.
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Re: Amount of pocket money

There was a thread on pocket money on EF some years back. How much pocket money for a 15 year old? I remembered it as I recalled the various replies which, as so often, didn't take the same things into account. How much does the money have to cover? being one of the vital questions. The thread is worth checking out.
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You probably pay for a bunch of things that are included in the 50,- If you would add those things to the 5,- I wonder how small the difference might be.
Mine were getting 50/month, but I paid clothes, etc.

I offered 200 all included, they took it.

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How much pocket money should we give our 13 year old teen daughter?

Currently we give her CHF 50 a week which she spends on clothes, food and drink outside, going out with her friends.
Now she claims that her friends get up to CHF 100 a week, which for me is absolutely ridiculous!!! As per me CHF 50 is enough for a week...
Some light reading for you, OP -- information from Credit Suisse (from July 2017) on average pocket money payments in Switzerland. According to the report, the average for a 13-year-old is CHF 39... per MONTH.

This is backed up by budgetberatung.ch, which recommends a scale of pocket money to be paid in Switzerland (see attached) -- they suggest CHF 30-50 per month. Note, they do also concede that certain additional payments could be made by the parents. These amount to around CHF 150 on top of the pocket money. Personally, I prefer to pay these amounts myself and give a smaller amount of pocket money to my son.
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Wish I got CHF 50 a week. Would have saved it
Instead I had to pack cookies in the local factory (which resulted in SLR, yes w/o a D ) and had to baby sit (yupp as a guy )

On the other hand, my parents paid cloths, skies and other sporting goods, camps, public transport and many other things. But we knew that all the stuff cost money and never took it for granted

So, it also depends what is included in the pocket money. I would have never accepted Toms offer. I knew that I would lose out.

First year apprenticeship (16 yeras old) I got 500 per month. It is not much more today: https://www.yousty.ch/de-CH/lehrlingslohn
O.k. I was lucky, I think parents still paid health insurance and public transport. But I know some of my peers had to pay all of their expenses out of their own pocket.
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